D600 dust accumulation time-lapse

The time-lapse video below shows the dust accumulation problem with a brand new Nikon D600. Note that the lens was never changed during this test - so this is not really dust coming from the outside, but internal particles accumulated around the same upper left portion of the sensor.Check it out:

http://youtu.be/_cY30lEMv8o

yep, this proves there is an issue INSIDE the camera. Now all we can do is keep reporting it to nikon and hope they offer a solution.

I was considering buying the D600 but now I'm not to sure! Seems that Nikon is having a lot of quality control issues and also poor support.

Will definitely wait till ... the DUST settles.

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Not good. Nikon should release a statement about this defect!

I'm not saying there is no issue but this is 1 out of how many hundreds of thousands of D600's produced. This video proves definitively nothing unless it was repeated with a statistically significant number of D600's.  It is the same as me coming to the conclusion that X brand of cars should be avoided because mine had an issue, and some forum research showed a handfull of people with the same issue.

Again, I'm not saying there isn't an issue with some bodies, but to see this video and come to the conclusion that you shouldn't buy a D600 is ridiculous.

Not one camera, there are a lot of owners complaining about the dust that's why he decided to do the test himself. He proved it that it is a serious defect. Dust accumulation coming from inside, not when changing lens, is a serious design problem.

No, he proved that with one camera there was abnormal dust accumulation.  Everyone here is saying "oh my god look! it's confirmed! All D600's are defective, don't buy one".

He would need thousands of cameras with random serial numbers brand new, unused, and perform the same test on all of them to come to any meaningful conclusion.

The 6 D600's I know of are all perfect, as well as the thousands sold from my local store (not one reported Dust/oil/debris issue yet from a customer).  If I came to the conclusion based on that information that all D600's were perfect, what would you think?

Also, telescoping zoom lenses bring in a lot of dust, even if never removed from the camera. I'm not saying that is what happened here, but it's an example of why some people probably think they have the dust "issue" but may not.

He should do the exact same test with the same lens on his D70 as control.

He proved it, you can't deny it, that there is a problem so we can conclude a defective batch were sold.

And it is not ONE camera

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3339415

Yes, I agree, the same test on other cameras would be useful, perhaps even from other brands, but that might open another can of worms altogether.  The 1DM3 and 1DSM3 oil issue was so bad Canon had to make a separate webpage and service advisory for it.  Manufactures (of all kinds) tend not to deal with any issue publicly unless it is A) very widespread or B) a safety issue, as there will naturally be a small percentage of defective units no matter what the product, which is why warranty exists.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/EOS_oil_spots.do

The bottom line is he would need thousands of cameras to come to any sort of statistically significant conclusion whatsoever, otherwise he's just one guy with one camera which proves absolutely nothing definitively except his individual copy has an issue.  His conclusion is no more accurate than if I took my own perfect D600 and said there is no problem because mine is dust/oil free after thousands of shots.

Lol, ok, whatever you say.

My iPod input pad broke the other day. I proved it, you can't deny it, we can conclude with 100% certainty there is a defective batch!!! Everyone should stop buying iPods. See how ridiculous that sounds?

You're not reading what I'm saying. I am not denying there are some affected cameras, but some people in this thread are seeing that video and coming to the conclusion that 100% of D600's are affected which is hilarious.

The most likely scenario is that a small enough number of cameras are affected relative to total production that Nikon feels regular warranty procedure is adequate. Only in situations of a widespread issue or safety concern do manufactures typically issue recalls and/or service advisories of any kind. That goes for pretty much any product.  Keep in mind just how many D600's have been sold...it takes a lot to become a significant issue.

Well that rental company had the same experience DUST.

I was going to buy a D600 -  will now hold off until Nikon has sorted the problem.

Who wants this sort of hassle? I am not going to take the chance.

I am sure Nikon knows what the fault is by now!

Glad to see some sane comments here.  I'm not sure many people will listen to you, they simply don't have the intelligence to truly understand your point.  Don't despair.

Yup, on 20 cameras.  Do you have any idea how insignificant that is relative to total production? They also have no way of knowing how those rental cameras were used.  I've worked in rental departments before, and let me tell you it is awful.  They also did not say they did the exact same degree of testing on all of their cameras.

Why are you ignoring all the problem free D600's which you are FAR more likely to receive? I know of several thousand, and I am just 1 person.

It takes less than 60 seconds to clean a sensor, and you can easily test for this problem in-store.

If they do, it isn't significant enough for them to issue a statement or service advisory. That is normally only done for safety issues or widespread problems.  At this point, obviously the numbers are so small that they are handling it through warranty or free sensor cleanings - the same way every other manufacturer does it.

Tell me about it - I am feeling like a broken record. People will believe what they want to believe though, that I know for sure.

So many people think the entire camera world is represented by DPreview (or a small collection of similar forums) and it's posters of unknown motive, experience, and credibility. I also think many of them would benefit from a class on statistics and probability.

The more I read, the more I see half these people don't even own D600's, which isn't surprising. Many of these people are the ones jumping from dust thread to dust thread saying "yes, you have the problem". It's laughable.

When the same logic used as to why there might be a problem is used on the flip side, it falls on deaf ears.

They ask for figures, we provide them with figures directly from multiple Nikon representatives and service center employees, and all of a sudden they are invalid because it's obviously a conspiracy theory full of lies LOL. Had that information supported the claim of a widespread issue though, you can bet it would have been deemed as truthful. It's a losing battle.

I feel like it's important to provide some balance to all the hysteria for the sake of new readers or people coming here for information. At least make people think a bit and make their own decision.

Unbelievable the two of you! The horse is dead and you are still pretending it is fine. You know THOUSANDS of people who have D600 that is fine? Sure....I know MILLIONS who do have a problem...

Why should we believe your fanboyism? It is a FACT that the D600 or quite a few of them have dust problems and you can not live with people destroying your favourite toy!

The D600 is a lemon and people who wait before buying are spot on. Instead of defending the lemon one should make sure that Nikon's quality control improves, but with people like you, this will never happen!

Also your argument that one example is not enough is invalid! In experimental theories ONE example that shows that the theory is not working is enough to put the whole thing in question.

Stef.

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How exactly do you know about several thousand cameras? Do you work for Nikon, Amazon or B&H? Or you just making it up?

Leo

P.S. I saw your "That is one camera" posts about 2 dozen times already in different dust/oil threads. So according to your arithmetics these cases do not add up?

It certainly isn't statistically insignificant.

Nobody is pretending all is well, our point is (and has always been) the problem is likely not nearly as wide spread as some people such as yourself would have us all believe.

Actually I used to work for the store I am talking about, and I know the owners.  I asked them both how many D600's they've sold, and how many people returned or exchanged cameras due to a dust/oil/dirty sensor problem.  The answer was zero after thousands of sales.

There haven't even been millions of D600's produced.

Please refrain from using words you don't know the meaning of. Why would I care the slightest bit what is happening to other people's D600's when mine and every other one I'm aware of is fine?  It's also not my favorite toy.  What I am doing is introducing some balance to all the ridiculous comments and conclusions flying around here and asking people to think and use logic.  Not once have I said no D600's are affected, a point many people seem to conveniently omit.

This is exactly what I am talking about.  You see a few forum posts here and there and come to the conclusion "The D600 is a lemon".  You officially have lost all credibility, and are exactly the type of person who helps exaggerate the issue, running around in your little tin foil hat.

You STILL have not read anything I've said haha.  This is actually hilarious, and a little bit concerning. Just helps prove my point that people only see what they want to see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_%28statistics%29