Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012

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Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition

Which one?

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Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition

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i think the "dog" the OP is referring to is the whole image.

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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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Hi Misha, good to see you posting again.

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Nice dog, indeed! IMHO, a bit closer would have been nicer. :)))

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trickcyclist wrote:

Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition

Which one?

i think the "dog" the OP is referring to is the whole image.

I think that's overly harsh. I don't fully understand Misha's images. I'm not sure all of them work. However, he does have a significant portfolio, and there's something about this one that draws me in. The idea of a live dog by a human statue, for a start.

I would dispute Misha's assertion that his work should only be examined visually. After all, he supplies captions for his images which lack an immediately obvious meaning too, so there is a verbal element.

Hence my attempt to engage him in conversation with humour. After all, he's a Russian living in Sweden and (after England, clearly) those countries probably have two of the most highly developed cultures of humour and irony on the planet.

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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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Agreed- the Black Dog, posed equivalently to the white statue behind it, reversed from the statue- a "lighter" element to the image. I believe the term "easter egg" applies to such features in a movie or image.

One question: the list of top posters for this forum is included in your post. Is that intentional, or is it a error in the forum software? The site has suffered multiple "glitches" in the last few weeks.

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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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trickcyclist wrote:

Banana Chips™ wrote:

trickcyclist wrote:

Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition

Which one?

i think the "dog" the OP is referring to is the whole image.

I think that's overly harsh. I don't fully understand Misha's images. I'm not sure all of them work. However, he does have a significant portfolio, and there's something about this one that draws me in. The idea of a live dog by a human statue, for a start.

I would dispute Misha's assertion that his work should only be examined visually. After all, he supplies captions for his images which lack an immediately obvious meaning too, so there is a verbal element.

Hence my attempt to engage him in conversation with humour. After all, he's a Russian living in Sweden and (after England, clearly) those countries probably have two of the most highly developed cultures of humour and irony on the planet.

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Banana Chips™ wrote:

trickcyclist wrote:

Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition

Which one?

i think the "dog" the OP is referring to is the whole image.

I think that's overly harsh. I don't fully understand Misha's images. I'm not sure all of them work.

I'm not.  Look, if you see how he responds to other posters who don't like his work.

I'm not going to sugarcoat my opinion around such individuals.

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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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What is the point of including the names of the top posters of this forum in an image thread? Is this a problem with the forum software, or are you confused about how to make a post?

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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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What is the point of including the names of the top posters of this forum in an image thread? Is this a problem with the forum software, or are you confused about how to make a post?

I think he plays a word game... We compose a pic, but also a message. So the names are part of the composition...

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World-War I Symmetry.

I see, then it is an invitation for other members in the list to post to the thread.

The man looking at the aircraft is for asymmetry.

Hand-held, no cropping, no powerpoint- except to resize image. No bubble-level. The Museum does not allow tripods.



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Re: Of course, the dog is an important element of the composition. Izmir 06.11.2012
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Interesting ..... super fine composition.  The dog is, of course, critical in the composition since it provides a distinct stopping point for the eye.  The live animal and dead statue work together.

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I like this, Misha, but it needs to be quite a lot larger to express properly, IMO.

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I'm getting convinced Misha's aim with these compositions is to deliberately create images that are visually uncomfortable.

Here we have a white figure deliberately placed near the edge of the frame looking out of the frame : classically and aesthetically this figure should be placed looking into the right two thirds of the frame or the frame draw out more to the left.

Highlighting in the title the insignificant dog is to draw the viewer not to the dog, but to the rule breaking element - otherwise they will continue to scan looking for the the reason behind the image.

In most forums there would be no comment or someone would throw in a supportive 'like' to encourage the novice not to give up. To break this false politeness, it has to be creatively bad; which takes skill.

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Your comment, Spher..A, is threaded as a response to mine. I hope that was unintentional as I cannot divine how it is related otherwise.

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Godfrey wrote:

Your comment, Spher..A, is threaded as a response to mine. I hope that was unintentional ...

Godfrey, the response was intended to be to the thread in general - your post  just happened to be the last in time. I was looking at the flat view

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Godfrey wrote:

I like this, Misha, but it needs to be quite a lot larger to express properly, IMO.

this is my favorite of Misha's offerings to this forum because of its strong composition and delightfully complex geomtrics

the dog is a sweet addition

much is lost when higher resolution captures are reduced for the web & this one suffers in particular being reduced so greatly in size

there must be some recondite reason for Misha's inclusion of the most frequent posters list

Misha relishes being obtuse

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I'm getting convinced Misha's aim with these compositions is to deliberately create images that are visually uncomfortable.

As forum members listed in the original post have been invited to post images to this thread, this lens was created to provide "visually incorrect" images. They are perhaps the opposite in compositon to Mr. Pedan's style. It is "spherical aberration" unbound. Using a Visible+infrared camera.

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