70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?

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fabgo
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70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
Oct 25, 2012

Assuming the new 70-200 f/4 is as good as or close to the 70-200 f/2.8 VR optically, is it worth getting the new lens over the 70-300 f/4.5-5.6?

I would mainly use this lens for landscapes and cityscapes, stopped down to say f/8, so how it performs wide open is not as important. I know the 70-300 has a longer reach, but it's also not as good at the long end. I'm primarily interested in how the two compare in the 70-200 range.

I intend to use this on the D800.

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Glen78
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Re: 70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
In reply to fabgo, Oct 25, 2012

From the looks of the MTF charts this lens is going to be ultra sharp at 200 vs the mediocre performance of the 70-300 at 300. The latest high res FX cameras (D600 and D800) will definitely benefit from the sharper lens. I will also go out on a limb and predict that the 70-200 with a 2x teleconverter will still be sharper at 400 than the 70-300 at 300.  The question for me is should I wait for the 300 f/4 VR as the overlap with my 24-120 f/4 is a little too much.

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JacquesC
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Re: 70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
In reply to fabgo, Oct 25, 2012

I faced a similar question years ago when I was still shooting Canon and eventually replaced my Canon 70-300 with the Canon 70-200L f/4 IS. It made a HUGE difference - apart from better mechanical construction the IQ of the 7-200 was absolutely superb and turned out to be my favourite lens - by far.

I am sure Nikon is fully aware that the new 70-200 f/4 lens will be critically compared to the Canon version and will therefore make sure that it measures up to it, and if it does then I believe it will be brilliant. If that is the case then I will also be sorely tempted to replace my current Nikon 70-300VR with the new lens.

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brunobarolo
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Re: 70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
In reply to fabgo, Oct 25, 2012

fabgo wrote:

Assuming the new 70-200 f/4 is as good as or close to the 70-200 f/2.8 VR optically, is it worth getting the new lens over the 70-300 f/4.5-5.6?

I would mainly use this lens for landscapes and cityscapes, stopped down to say f/8, so how it performs wide open is not as important. I know the 70-300 has a longer reach, but it's also not as good at the long end. I'm primarily interested in how the two compare in the 70-200 range.

I intend to use this on the D800.

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IMO, at f8 in the 70-200mm range, the 70-300 is very, very good. So I'm not sure you can win a lot with the 70-200 f4 at these settings.

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Ronj2
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In reply to brunobarolo, Oct 26, 2012

I guess we need to decide if $1400 - $1600  is worth 1/3 -2/3+ of a stop of light over the 70-300Vr in the 70-200 range. I'm not sure it is yet.

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westcoasthd
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In reply to Ronj2, Oct 26, 2012

I don't think the 70-300 is free, so really you are talking about a $800 difference in cost. The extra dollars provides a lens with a pro build that takes TC's. Either that matters or it doesn't, but there something to be said for a high performce compact lens that is not all plastic. If you ever shot with a Nikon 200mm f4 AIS lens you would know what I mean.

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Re: 70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
In reply to brunobarolo, Oct 26, 2012

I can not imagine choosing this lens over the 70-300 for 3x the price.  That's because I'm not a pro.  And this is a pro lens.  In business,  we invest in the right tool to increase profits.  For some professionals, this is the right lens - not more (70-200 F2.8), not less (70-300 f4.5-5.6).

That being said, although I can't afford it, I CAN imagine owning the 70-200 F2.8.

Maybe the physcology of the non-pro is:

1. 70-300 -- "I can have a really good lens for a fraction of the price of the best lens" I'm happy.

2. 70-200 F2.8 -- "I paid a heck of alot but I own the best" I'm Happy.

3. 70-200 F4 -- "I paid alot but its not the best.  Maybe I would have been satisfied with the cheaper one?" -- I'm not happy

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Re: 70-200 f/4 VR3 vs 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR2. Thoughts?
In reply to brunobarolo, Oct 27, 2012

I agree with brunobarolo on this one. The 70-300 is excellent at the short end. I've found my copy to be good at the long end too. Thom Hogan's stated in his review of the 70-300 that the lens is as good as the 70-200 f/2.8 when used in the 70-200mm range. Overall, I'm happy with my 70-300 and don't intend to replace or augment it with the 70-200 f/4. Also, the price of the 70-200 f/4 is quite steep (3x that of the 70-300).

OTOH, some may find certain characteristics of the 70-200 f/4 to be useful - better (?) build quality, slightly wider and constant aperture, improved (?) VR, smaller and lighter than the f/2.8 version. People will buy this lens, and I'm sure they'll be very satisfied with it.

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In reply to fabgo, Oct 27, 2012

Since we cant compare them now how about comparing Nikon 70-300 VR to canons 70-200 F4 IS as Nikons should be like canons. At F8 look pretty close,, wide open 70-200 F4 wins. But at F8 well you be the judge.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=622&Camera=614&Sample=0&FLI=3&API=3&LensComp=404&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=3

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