My new 15mm f8. Cheap...but disappointing.

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kiri wrote:

Not terrible by any means. But I highly doubt I would ever use this lens/accessory, no matter how cheap it is.

f8 is just too limiting

It's supposed to be fun, isn't it?  And perhaps an interesting challenge to work with its limitations...?

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Chris_in_Osaka wrote:

I'll try it out to see if that helps.

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Hi Chris,

Images seem a bit underexposed. I guess you have to shoot in A mode.

Could be. I really don't know. I'm not sure how it would make a difference since the camera does not detect an f stop, you get " -:- " on the screen in place of the aperture regardless of mode.


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Like with legacy lenses, you have to set the camera to A. The camera will select the proper shutter speed. The exposure compensation can still be activated to lighten or darken the image.

I'm surprised that Olympus didn't add a couple of contacts, to set the EXIF f stop data.

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Alternatively, you can pick up a safe shutter speed in Manual mode and set the camera to auto-ISO : this is the only case where I can see a use for auto-ISO.

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Congratulation! You got some really nice pictures with it.

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Mouser wrote:

kiri wrote:

Not terrible by any means. But I highly doubt I would ever use this lens/accessory, no matter how cheap it is.

f8 is just too limiting

It's supposed to be fun, isn't it?  And perhaps an interesting challenge to work with its limitations...?


I think that's about the sum of it. It's not for purists or pixel peepers, it's for someone who enjoys a challenge and who will just concentrate on shooting something different or interesting with it, much like Holga users. For the price I don't think you can complain too much.

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In reply to Chris_in_Osaka, Oct 12, 2012

You can see several examples of pictures and a short review/blog entry on this lens from Pekka Potka here :

http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2012/10/8/olympus-15mm-f8-walking-the-dog-and-having-fun.html

On my iPad some of the pictures look pretty sharp, others less so. I think that he made a good show of what this lens can do and what it can't.

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Re: 14mm f2.5 vs 15mm f8 - that's just silly.
In reply to Henry Richardson, Oct 12, 2012

Henry Richardson wrote:

Thanks for the info.  Yes, the 15mm is cheap, but I can't see how I would possibly have any interest at all in it.  I got the 14mm f2.5 for $160 (new on ebay) and it is tiny.  Much better lens, almost same FL, much faster aperture that you can change, and fast AF.  I would recommend most people just save the money and use it towards the 14mm if you want a tiny lens.

The 15mm is quite unique - to think it would replace any other lens is a bit far fetched.  It's best feature is its size - but to think it will be the answer to pocketabiilty w/o considering the funky qualities and limitations is not thinking it through.

This would appeal more to those types that might want to try to use a body cap altered to make it a pinhole type lens.

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In reply to Bob Tullis, Oct 12, 2012

Chris,

I ordered one last nite from Amazon.jp. Plan on using it on my GF2, to make it pocketable. Guess I will put it at F8 and fire away, trying whatever 'art filters' are on the camera.

Thanks for starting this thread.

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rrr_hhh wrote:

Congratulation! You got some really nice pictures with it.

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I wish..

I found the link in another post about this lens.

It shows that a photographer still needs a creative mind and not always first class equipment.

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Chris_in_Osaka wrote:

Picked up the new Oly body cap lens last night. Today is the official release date in Japan (one weak late).

The good:

It's cheap.

It's by far the best body cap I've ever had.

It's better than Holga M4/3 lenses in the same price range.

The bad:

It's now officially the worst lens I own. No wonder Olympus list it under "accessories" rather than "lenses".

I haven't been using it long, but from what I can tell, 70-80% of my images are garbage.

Yep, looks like performs exactly in-line for what it is, which is a $49 body cap. For sure buyers need to go into this lens with realistic expectations. The 15mm focal length to me is somewhat unexciting in this format, especially given the maximum aperture. Someone wanting the physically small size AND performance need to just be paying the money for a lens that provides both, the Panasonic 14mm f2.5.

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There are a number of large size images of and taken by the 15mm. They look pretty decent. Be aware that this site loads VERY slowly.

http://siammirrorless.com/board/index.php?topic=34.0

(cannot figure out how to make this link active)

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Chris_in_Osaka wrote:

Picked up the new Oly body cap lens last night. Today is the official release date in Japan (one weak late).

The good:

It's cheap.

It's by far the best body cap I've ever had.

It's better than Holga M4/3 lenses in the same price range.

The bad:

It's now officially the worst lens I own. No wonder Olympus list it under "accessories" rather than "lenses".

I haven't been using it long, but from what I can tell, 70-80% of my images are garbage.

First and foremost is focus. One issue, at least in my copy, is the amount of looseness/play between the "infinity" and "distant" mark. Close up shooting? Forget it. I haven't been able to get anything in focus using my E-PL3 (I have yet to mount it on my OM-D).

Fringing and distortion are all over the place.

Then there is the f8 setting. I seem to be getting a lot of camera shake (this I admit is more my fault for not paying attention to the lighting and keeping in mind I'm stuck at f8).

Basically, I can't see myself ditching my 17mm f2.8 for this. There isn't THAT much size difference to make up for all the issues.

The only way I can see myself using this is, perhaps, when shooting with art filter, particularly the grainy black and white one.

Oh well, it's a cheap. And it's one heck of a body cap.

Anyway, here are a few of the very few that shots that show this lenses passable results.

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In reply to Chris_in_Osaka, Oct 12, 2012

the pics you posted don't look that terrible for a $50 lens. I see this more as a toy camera lens where you play around with it and embrace its flaws.

But I could be completely wrong because I don't own it.

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I was thinking you picked up the trailer for $160!

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Re: My new 15mm f8. Cheap...but disappointing.
In reply to Mouser, Oct 13, 2012

Mouser wrote:

kiri wrote:

Not terrible by any means. But I highly doubt I would ever use this lens/accessory, no matter how cheap it is.

f8 is just too limiting

It's supposed to be fun, isn't it?  And perhaps an interesting challenge to work with its limitations...?


If I want a challenge, I can use my smartphonecamera

Don't get me wrong, I think its a great and innovative idea. But since I never carry my camera with just the body cap on, I think this thing would actually make me lose more shots because it would mean I waste time switching to a different lens when I want to take a shot. That's my perspective anyway.

I still think its a cool accessory. Just not a useful one (for me)

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In reply to Jeff Tokayer, Oct 13, 2012

Like I've said before.  It's a gimp lens.  Do you really want to challenge yourself?  Get a lego camera.

Here is one from the 160$ panasonic 14mm

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Like I've said before.  It's a gimp lens.  Do you really want to challenge yourself?  Get a lego camera.

Here's a 4x5 Lego camera with impressive sample picture:

http://carynorton.com/legotron-mark-i

http://carynorton.com/legotron-mark-i/ashleylegotron

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In reply to Chris_in_Osaka, Oct 13, 2012

I am going to get it anyway.

For someone who likes shooting with a lensbaby occasionally, it seems like a fun thing to use.

My lensbaby composer is a lot bigger and more expensive, and its focal length (50mm approx.) is not as useful.

I don't care at all if this body cap lens distorts or whatever.

It will be (at least) a good way to carry the camera in one pocket and one good lens in another and still have the camera ready for the shot that just produces itself in a flash, in decent light.

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In reply to Chris_in_Osaka, Oct 13, 2012

Talk about having high expectations...

The quality of the images you posted is excellent, for what it is. Way above what I expected from this gadget.

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In reply to Chris_in_Osaka, Oct 13, 2012

I kind of like it, it has a very "Instagram" sort of feel to the focusing. It's cheesy and obviously more of a gimmicky fun accessory than anything. However I do like the photos

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In reply to ThomCull, Oct 13, 2012

For what it is, it is a great and fun lens.  People are out there paying $700 for 2 crap plastic Lensbabies, some adapters, and a plastic pouch.  An original equipment Oly regular cap is about  $7, B&H sells this for $50 with free shipping, so you are getting a novelty item for $43 instead of hundreds.   I can't understand what people are expecting from this item.  Zeiss WA performance?

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