Closing the gap at Photokina.

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Mazin Sami
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Closing the gap at Photokina.
Sep 26, 2012

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

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In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

Not on the lenses though.

Mazin Sami wrote:

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

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In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

a) http://camerasize.com/compact/#382,289,380,290,wa,f

b) Stick a lens on it, or better, carry a bag of lenses for it, and then say the same thing.

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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Sep 26, 2012

What about this? Look at that "tiny" epl5 and a65.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#380,32,289,382,wa,f

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with some lenses

Yes you're right, but in FF you have so many options, I myself invested heavily in m43 and find it to be an irony.

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Size and weight
In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

Mazin Sami wrote:

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

Yes, the physical dimensions of the GH3 take it into dSLR territory, but they are not the only criteria that matter. The weight of the GH3 body only with battery is 550g, while the Canon EOS 6D tips the scales at 770g (again for body only with battery). That is a 40% increase in weight compared to the GH3 before you even start to consider the size and weight of the lenses and the cameras' relative suitability for those of us with large hands or a taste for quality video recording.

If small size is what really matters for you then the GH3 is not the camera for you. Take a look at a Pen mini or a GF5.

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Yes, the physical dimensions of the GH3 take it into dSLR territory, but they are not the only criteria that matter. The weight of the GH3 body only with battery is 550g, while the Canon EOS 6D tips the scales at 770g (again for body only with battery). That is a 40% increase in weight compared to the GH3 before you even start to consider the size and weight of the lenses and the cameras' relative suitability for those of us with large hands or a taste for quality video recording.

If small size is what really matters for you then the GH3 is not the camera for you. Take a look at a Pen mini or a GF5.

I have 3 pens, and a GF1, and few lenses including the pany 20mm and the 7-14mm.

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In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

I find that cameras typically need a lens to take pics. So it's not a reasonable comparison. Now let's add a lens - the Pany 12-35 2.8 to the OMD and GH3, and Canon 24-70 2.8 to the 6D:

http://camerasize.com/compact/#289.336,381.336,380.286,wa,t

And the weight...

OMD - 705 grams total
GH3 - 855 grams total
6D - 1575 grams total

For ultralight, the OMD looks to be the best choice. For hybrid still/video use, the GH3 looks much better, albeit with a modest weight penalty. But the Canon...

Wow, that thing looks like a monster! Huge and heavy. Lacks necessary features for video (GH3 wins for that) and has a massive weight penalty for stills (GH3 is good and OMD is great for that). The 6D is a nice camera, but I'd hate to lug that thing around all day.

Dan.

p.s. Be careful when using specs and tools like camerasize.com to support your point. Other people have access to the same specs to make the exact opposite argument. And for folks like me who HAVE lugged around large cameras like that, size and weight are a major turnoff.

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Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

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Another one with lenses
In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

Funny thread

Here's another one with 12-35 (4/3) 17-50 (APS-C) and 24-70 (FF)

http://camerasize.com/compact/#289.336,381.336,187.203,378.211,wa,t

What strikes me is the size difference between formats is becoming ultra-narrow...
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Re: Closing the gap at Photokina.
In reply to perry rhodan, Sep 26, 2012

Not sure what your point is? Are you saying the EPL5 is not tiny?

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Mazin Sami wrote:

with some lenses

Yes you're right, but in FF you have so many options, I myself invested heavily in m43 and find it to be an irony.

For those cameras you already heavily invested in, there is no such irony.

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Mazin Sami wrote:

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

It is even better when you attach the 24-70mm to the 6D and the 12-35mm to the GH3 :

http://j.mp/UuBAsJ

(I hope that the link kept the lenses attached)

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rrr_hhh wrote:

Mazin Sami wrote:

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

It is even better when you attach the 24-70mm to the 6D and the 12-35mm to the GH3 :

Actually, you can use the 24-105 on the Canon and get similar results.

http://j.mp/UuBAsJ

(I hope that the link kept the lenses attached)

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The GH3 is sitll substantially smaller, especially with a lens. I mean, a Chevy Tahoe is "only" 10 inches longer than a Honda Accord. But go drive them both and the Tahoe will feel huge in comparison. I see this kind of the same way. Sure, the GH3 isn't a Fiat 500, but it's hardly a Tahoe or Suburban, either.

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In reply to Mazin Sami, Sep 26, 2012

Rejoice!

From now on you have a choice:
from big to small,
from brick-like body to curvature body,
from your pocket size to depth of your wallet.

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BigBarney wrote:

Mazin Sami wrote:

Ironically the size between the two formats is becoming trivial.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#381,380,wa,f

Yes, the physical dimensions of the GH3 take it into dSLR territory, but they are not the only criteria that matter. The weight of the GH3 body only with battery is 550g, while the Canon EOS 6D tips the scales at 770g (again for body only with battery). That is a 40% increase in weight compared to the GH3 before you even start to consider the size and weight of the lenses and the cameras' relative suitability for those of us with large hands or a taste for quality video recording.

Actually, larger cameras are a non-issue for video work. Something like the GH3 or 6D will be put in a rig for better ergonomics and so that other components can be used like follow focus, or lighting. Shooting a DSLR in video work, handheld is somewhat noobish... its not the ideal form factor at all.

If small size is what really matters for you then the GH3 is not the camera for you. Take a look at a Pen mini or a GF5.

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In reply to Jogger, Sep 26, 2012

Yes, GH3 is way too large! Unfortunately while designing the GH3 Panasonic didn't consider the army of enthusiasts shooting with body only. For the rest though there is some evidence of size difference between GH3+12-35mm and 600D+24-70mm/24-105mm:

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perry rhodan wrote:

What about this? Look at that "tiny" epl5 and a65.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#380,32,289,382,wa,f

n/t

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In reply to Pixnat2, Sep 26, 2012

Pixnat2 wrote:

Funny thread

Here's another one with 12-35 (4/3) 17-50 (APS-C) and 24-70 (FF)

http://camerasize.com/compact/#289.336,381.336,187.203,378.211,wa,t

What strikes me is the size difference between formats is becoming ultra-narrow...

Good site to bookmark I guess.

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