Ballhead for 400 5.6 + 60D on mono-pod

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foggy
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Ballhead for 400 5.6 + 60D on mono-pod
Aug 29, 2012

Hi,

Does anyone have a recommendation for a ball head under $100. to fit my Manafroto mono-pod? It's a 3 extension aluminum stick with about a 1 to 11/4" platform at the top to mount the head (with 1/4-20 threads) I don't want something over big that will take over the top of the pod. Then again what would be a fair weight range for the head? I haven’t been keeping up on what’s out there

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Re: Ballhead for 400 5.6 + 60D on mono-pod
In reply to foggy, Aug 29, 2012

http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-3229-Swivel-Quick-Release/dp/B00006J053

That's all you need or want for a monopod. There is also another version available if you happen to use the arca-swiss system, but it is more expensive.
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In reply to billythek, Aug 29, 2012

I agree. Why pay for a ball head which gives you 360 degrees of motion when you only really need up and down (since you can easily rotate the monopod)? And, frankly, after using the Manfrotto head recommended, I decided I didn't even need it and simply screw the monopod into the lens foot.

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In reply to billythek, Aug 30, 2012

Yes, I agree

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In reply to foggy, Aug 30, 2012

Skip the ball head and go for a tilt head. Your panning action comes from just rotating the whole 'pod. There are several out there, from the small Manfrotto (with their annoying QR system) to a variety of medium sized heads : Custom Brackets, Hejnar, Kirk, RRS, all of which offer Arca-Swiss clamps. (Custom Brackets also has its own proprietary clamp system in addition to A-S). I suspect that the Manfrotto is at the top of its rated capacity with the 400mm f/5.6 and 60D, but, with a monopod, you are always supporting the camera so the actual weight taken by the head is less than the camera plus lens weight.

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In reply to NancyP, Aug 30, 2012

The Manfrotto tilt head is solid and more than adequate to support the 400mm f/5.6. If you are concerned about vibration, there will be much more vibration just from the fact that it is a monopod rather than a tripod. The only concern should be whether this will keep the lens connected to the monopod, and it is more than adequate for that.

If you really want a high-end solution, though, RRS has a nice one. But it isn't cheap.

I got the Kirk arca-swiss version, simply because I use arca-swiss plates with my tripod, and didn't want to change them out when I use the monopod.
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In reply to billythek, Aug 30, 2012

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestions I settled for the Manfrotto Tilt Top-Swivel Tilt Head with RC Plate 200PL-14 the later version of the 3229 Swivel Tilt Head. I don't know if there are any differences between the two. I had a similar Manfrotto tilt head without quick release plate years ago. It was not very smooth when set loose for up and down movement. Lets hope materials, assembly and design have improved in 20 years.

This will also eliminate the flop I had from side to side when I had the tri-pod ring on the lens loose and the cheep ball head I was using set loose also. ( held steady with a strong grip) My hand can use the loss of movement in that direction.

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In reply to foggy, Aug 31, 2012

The RRS one is very strong, I use it with both the 400mm 5.6 and 65mm macro +twin flash.

http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.aspx?code=MH01&key=cat

I have a plate on the base of the camera which makes it easy and very quick to attach the camera to the monopod via a clamp on the RRS.

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In reply to Peter too, Sep 1, 2012

Looks like great stuff! My problem is My money tree is still recovering from buying the 400 5.6 and I will have to make do with the Manfrotto for now.

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Re: Ballhead for 400 5.6 + 60D on mono-pod
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foggy wrote:

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It was not very smooth when set loose for up and down movement. Lets hope materials, assembly and design have improved in 20 years.
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Foggy

Not sure. I am disappointed with the Manfrotto 234RC, friction control is very bad, irregular!

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In reply to foggy, Sep 1, 2012

This is well made and slightly less pricey than the RRS head..........
http://www.kirkphoto.com/Kirk_MPA-2_Monopod_Head.html
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In reply to foggy, Sep 10, 2012

Boy, that really sounds like more trouble than its worth. Try direct mounting like they said previously.

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Re: Ballhead for 400 5.6 + 60D on mono-pod
In reply to foggy, Sep 11, 2012

is pretty much the same as what I use to mount my 1Ds2 and either 400 f5.6, 80-200 f2.8 or a 600mm mirror lens on my Manfrotto 679B 3 section monopod. Since it's on the monopod I never really let go of the camera lens combo so it's good enough and locks into position really well. If I need to leave my camera on a tripod I'll use my Manfrotto 141RC head.

The ballhead costs £13.99 although mine is slightly different in shape and cost me £12.99.
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In reply to Tazz93, Sep 12, 2012

Tazz93 wrote:

Boy, that really sounds like more trouble than its worth. Try direct mounting like they said previously.

It's nice to have the freedom to tilt the camera without having to tilt the monopod as well. Plus having the monopod leg stick straight down is not very stable. It's better to have the leg stick out in front so you can lean into it and brace it with your own leg. And it's convenient to have a quick release, rather than screw on.

I like the looks of the new Kirk, but I can't see paying $200 for it. The version I have is the old Kirk that looks like the Manfrotto tilt head, but with the arca-swiss release. It works fine for me with my 70-200 f/2.8, which weighs more than the 400 f/5.6 the OP was using. I don't see it listed on the Kirk site anymore, though.

Granted, the friction is a little inconsistent, but I haven't been annoyed enough to want to spend big bucks for something better. It suits my needs.

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