Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test

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Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test
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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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SPP 5.3.1? Is that a beta version?

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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DP2M looks a lot better at pixel level.
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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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ChristianHass wrote:

DP2M looks a lot better at pixel level.
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It really does. Now the question is how does it handle high ISO compared to old DPs and how much improved is the AF.

I would really like to se DP2 vs DP2M comparisons too

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
In reply to PrebenR, Jul 12, 2012

Hi,

looking at the full images in Photoshop, I agree that the DP2M is a little sharper - a prime should be - but it does appear to me to be a little noisier. This is true even in the sky which should have no detail.

Some more images linked to in the posts yesterday were rather good and I am tempted to upgrade from my DP2!

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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DP2M images appear to be a bit oversharpened. Maybe default SPP applies too much sharpening. The Sd1M images appear more natural. M P

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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It seems odd that there would be that much noise with NR off in SPP. The image with NR on looks cleaner and better.

Another difference between the SD1 and DP2M images is the rendition of shadows. The DP2M (for my taste) has the shadow areas uplifted too much. The SD1 looks more natural. The 2M almost looks like an HDR shot. This is (most likely), a processing choice by the photographer. Given the SD1 produces (IMHO) too deep shadows OOC, it is possible this was taken into account with the 2M.
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On my monitor, Maro's greens look subtly different, SD1 compared to DP2M. More color variations between cameras or processing?
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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
In reply to SandyF, Jul 12, 2012

The DP2M is noisier because Maro exposed it about 1.5 stops less than the SD1M, 1/320 sec vs 1/125. It would be a much better comparison if he had not used AE and just set each exposure manually.

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In reply to michaeli, Jul 12, 2012

Exposure difference is 1,3 stops apart with same apparent brightness. Tone mapping looks much more even than the SD1. mmm
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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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mike earussi wrote:

The DP2M is noisier because Maro exposed it about 1.5 stops less than the SD1M, 1/320 sec vs 1/125. It would be a much better comparison if he had not used AE and just set each exposure manually.

As a result Maro had to reduce exposure in SPP with 0.5 stops for the SD1M and increase it 0.5 stops for the DP2M, so we more or less compare a ISO 300 to a ISO 150 shot here.

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In reply to michaeli, Jul 12, 2012

The detail is really pornographic :). DP2M looks sharper, looks like very fine grain is also present at ISO 200. I also prefer DP2M colors especially green is stronger without SD1 little red-magenta shift. I wonder how clear smooth surfaces-areas will be pictured with this gentle grain pattern...
Anyway, looks outstanding...

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
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ChristianHass wrote:

DP2M looks a lot better at pixel level.
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It's quite clear that the DP2M shots are processed differently as either noise reduction was not used or more than likely it was simply sharpened and the SD1 shot was not. I sharpened very slightly the SD1 shot and it then looks identical in detail throughout most of the image and the noise level also then looks identical.

I any case those samples have by far the best detail I have seen so far from any digital camera in a human price range. Absolutely amazing and crazy detail. Stunning really.

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Re: Maro's Dp2m VS SD1 test - What's that SPP version?
In reply to Ian Morison, Jul 13, 2012

Ian Morison wrote:

Hi,

looking at the full images in Photoshop, I agree that the DP2M is a little sharper - a prime should be - but it does appear to me to be a little noisier. This is true even in the sky which should have no detail.

Some more images linked to in the posts yesterday were rather good and I am tempted to upgrade from my DP2!

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Ian sharpen slightly (radius no more than .5) the SD1 image and it should look identical in detail throughout most of the image and you'll notice the noise will also look identical. It's fair to say the dp2m was sharpened which would explain the difference in noise between the two samples as provided.

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