Two issues on current Olympus µFT lens offerings

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Two issues on current Olympus µFT lens offerings
Jun 20, 2012

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses.

Selling quality lenses without a lens hood and then charging really quite a lot of money for the lens hoods seems to me like a scam to artificially create an impression of low pricing on the lenses themselves.

(2) Relevant for some lenses : I frankly don't understand the Olympus thought process on choices made for weathersealing and for available colours .

Many of the zooms are available in different colour schemes , offering the buyer a choice of what he prefers with his choice of camera body. The nice past primes, however, seem to be available only in silver. That is fine if you pick a silver camera body, but it looks not so great on a black body. And I would think that the main target audience for those primes are the enthusiasts, many of which will probably get a black body, because it matches their already existing lens collection better.

Same with weathersealing : the fast primes should really be weathersealed, in order to be attractive to the target audience that has waited for the first weathersealed camera body.

Are these details? Yes probably. But they still influence my decision making.

If it weren't for these issues, I would without a shadow of a doubt get a 45mm F1.8 in black, to go with my (future) E-M5 for smallest possible fast combination.

Currently, I will probably still buy it, but I will regret that it is not weathersealed and not in black. And I will grudgingly consider buying a lens hood.

Same for the future 75mmF1.8 and the 12mmF2 : these would look much more attractive to me without those issues, up to the point where I will only consider getting them if I find that I have no alternatives in my current set-up.

As an aside, Voigtlander gets much of it right with their Noktons :

  • black, which looks good on any body

  • lenshood and dual lens caps provided

  • well, OK, not weathersealed but that is slightly less urgent for a non-electronic lens.

Those Noktons (or one of them) will be on my radar after I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

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Roel,

4/3rds rumors is reporting this morning that Olympus is going to be announcing before Photokina that the 45/1.8 and 12/2 lenses will be available in black. It's an FT4 rumor, so likely to come true. So better hold off on purchasing any of these lenses if black is that important to you. I imagine they will be doing the same for the upcoming 75/1.8 some time in the hopefully, near, future.

I agree with you totally about the lens hoods. There are cheap ones to be found on ebay and the major retailers, as well.

I imagine that Olympus, and Pany will be offering some of their existing lenses in weather proofed versions to go with their weather sealed camera bodies. GH3 supposed to be weather sealed too.

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Tack wrote:

Roel,

4/3rds rumors is reporting this morning that Olympus is going to be announcing before Photokina that the 45/1.8 and 12/2 lenses will be available in black. It's an FT4 rumor, so likely to come true. So better hold off on purchasing any of these lenses if black is that important to you. I imagine they will be doing the same for the upcoming 75/1.8 some time in the hopefully, near, future.

Thanks for the heads up.

I may still get a silver 45F1.8 if I feel I need it sooner.
And then when a black one arrives I might replace it and sell the silver one.
If no rush, I will wait, indeed for that black one.

The above (waiting or buyin/reselling) not so much for the colour in itself (a camera is no fashion statement; looking good is just a nice bonus) but because with the colour change may also come the weathersealing. And that does really matter to me.

Depends also on time of availability, because with the E-M5 I will get a cashback booklet for certain lenses and accessories, that can be used only in 2012.

I agree with you totally about the lens hoods. There are cheap ones to be found on ebay and the major retailers, as well.

I imagine that Olympus, and Pany will be offering some of their existing lenses in weather proofed versions to go with their weather sealed camera bodies. GH3 supposed to be weather sealed too.

Chances are that if they are going to weatherseal some lenses, this may arrive at the same time as the black version.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses.

Selling quality lenses without a lens hood and then charging really quite a lot of money for the lens hoods seems to me like a scam to artificially create an impression of low pricing on the lenses themselves.

this is true

especially if this extends to WA/UWA, as the hoods are more specialised and much harder to replace. Hoods are necessary and they are a part of the lenses shooting quality.

Otherwise for tele lenses I have a fondness for film era Hoya rubber hoods (oh no, now Brian will be looking for these too!)

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

Tack wrote:

Roel,

4/3rds rumors is reporting this morning that Olympus is going to be announcing before Photokina that the 45/1.8 and 12/2 lenses will be available in black. It's an FT4 rumor, so likely to come true. So better hold off on purchasing any of these lenses if black is that important to you. I imagine they will be doing the same for the upcoming 75/1.8 some time in the hopefully, near, future.

Thanks for the heads up.

I may still get a silver 45F1.8 if I feel I need it sooner.

The main question on whether I will be getting a 45mm is whether my ZD50mmF2 and ZD25mm pancake focus well on the E-M5. If they work well, I have small lenses for the time being. If it is a pain to get them to focus reasonably well and fast, I definitely see a fast 45mm in my future. The price is right, too.

And then when a black one arrives I might replace it and sell the silver one.
If no rush, I will wait, indeed for that black one.

The above (waiting or buying/reselling) not so much for the colour in itself (a camera is no fashion statement; looking good is just a nice bonus) but because with the colour change may also come the weathersealing. And that does really matter to me.

Depends also on time of availability, because with the E-M5 I will get a cashback booklet for certain lenses and accessories, that can be used only in 2012.

I agree with you totally about the lens hoods. There are cheap ones to be found on ebay and the major retailers, as well.

I imagine that Olympus, and Pany will be offering some of their existing lenses in weather proofed versions to go with their weather sealed camera bodies. GH3 supposed to be weather sealed too.

Chances are that if they are going to weatherseal some lenses, this may arrive at the same time as the black version.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses.

Selling quality lenses without a lens hood and then charging really quite a lot of money for the lens hoods seems to me like a scam to artificially create an impression of low pricing on the lenses themselves.

I would just get a 3rd party one, but then again I'm not picky about lens hoods.

(2) Relevant for some lenses : I frankly don't understand the Olympus thought process on choices made for weathersealing and for available colours .

Many of the zooms are available in different colour schemes , offering the buyer a choice of what he prefers with his choice of camera body. The nice past primes, however, seem to be available only in silver. That is fine if you pick a silver camera body, but it looks not so great on a black body. And I would think that the main target audience for those primes are the enthusiasts, many of which will probably get a black body, because it matches their already existing lens collection better.

Hehe, and so should they go the Pentax route of fruit colors for their cameras. Just kidding, well get a silver body. I did. Olympus does need to rethink their color schemes, but I do like the retro look of the E-M5 and the lenses.

Same with weathersealing : the fast primes should really be weathersealed, in order to be attractive to the target audience that has waited for the first weathersealed camera body.

I think this will come, but their idea was that the 12-50mm would be an all purpose outdoor macro zoom that could be used in rain, sand, etc. The others need a little more protection. But the Panasonic high quality weather sealed zooms are coming soon. I'm sure Olympus will follow with high quality weather sealed zooms like in regular 4 3rds and the promised professional OMD.

Are these details? Yes probably. But they still influence my decision making.

If it weren't for these issues, I would without a shadow of a doubt get a 45mm F1.8 in black, to go with my (future) E-M5 for smallest possible fast combination.

Currently, I will probably still buy it, but I will regret that it is not weathersealed and not in black. And I will grudgingly consider buying a lens hood.

Same for the future 75mmF1.8 and the 12mmF2 : these would look much more attractive to me without those issues, up to the point where I will only consider getting them if I find that I have no alternatives in my current set-up.

I will get both because they are great lenses. For regular 4 3rds, the primes were not weather sealed and I never had a problem. Through monsoon, sand storms in Central Asia, etc. my 50mm f2 took a beating and kept on kicking. In fact it is the first prime I want to use when I finally get my E-M5. Where I am now in Taiwan, though, I do appreciate water sealing a little more.

As an aside, Voigtlander gets much of it right with their Noktons :

  • black, which looks good on any body

  • lenshood and dual lens caps provided

  • well, OK, not weathersealed but that is slightly less urgent for a non-electronic lens.

Those Noktons (or one of them) will be on my radar after I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

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Landscapephoto99 wrote:

RoelHendrickx wrote:

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses.

Selling quality lenses without a lens hood and then charging really quite a lot of money for the lens hoods seems to me like a scam to artificially create an impression of low pricing on the lenses themselves.

I would just get a 3rd party one, but then again I'm not picky about lens hoods.

(2) Relevant for some lenses : I frankly don't understand the Olympus thought process on choices made for weathersealing and for available colours .

Many of the zooms are available in different colour schemes , offering the buyer a choice of what he prefers with his choice of camera body. The nice past primes, however, seem to be available only in silver. That is fine if you pick a silver camera body, but it looks not so great on a black body. And I would think that the main target audience for those primes are the enthusiasts, many of which will probably get a black body, because it matches their already existing lens collection better.

Hehe, and so should they go the Pentax route of fruit colors for their cameras. Just kidding, well get a silver body. I did. Olympus does need to rethink their color schemes, but I do like the retro look of the E-M5 and the lenses.

I won't get silver body. Looks ugly with the grip and I just like the fact that black does not reflect and thus attracts less attention.

Same with weathersealing : the fast primes should really be weathersealed, in order to be attractive to the target audience that has waited for the first weathersealed camera body.

I think this will come, but their idea was that the 12-50mm would be an all purpose outdoor macro zoom that could be used in rain, sand, etc. The others need a little more protection. But the Panasonic high quality weather sealed zooms are coming soon. I'm sure Olympus will follow with high quality weather sealed zooms like in regular 4 3rds and the promised professional OMD.

I hope so. Are you thinking there will come an OM-D that surpasses the E-M5 (not a successor, of course), but a separate line that "ranks higher" in the hierarchy. If so, I should probably wait for it. But I won't. The E-M5 ticks enough boxes.

Are these details? Yes probably. But they still influence my decision making.

If it weren't for these issues, I would without a shadow of a doubt get a 45mm F1.8 in black, to go with my (future) E-M5 for smallest possible fast combination.

Currently, I will probably still buy it, but I will regret that it is not weathersealed and not in black. And I will grudgingly consider buying a lens hood.

Same for the future 75mmF1.8 and the 12mmF2 : these would look much more attractive to me without those issues, up to the point where I will only consider getting them if I find that I have no alternatives in my current set-up.

I will get both because they are great lenses. For regular 4 3rds, the primes were not weather sealed and I never had a problem. Through monsoon, sand storms in Central Asia, etc. my 50mm f2 took a beating and kept on kicking. In fact it is the first prime I want to use when I finally get my E-M5. Where I am now in Taiwan, though, I do appreciate water sealing a little more.

Same here on wanting to try out the ZD50mm. Could be a great combo if it focuses well enough. And if so, I can wait for a 45mm lens or may not even get it at all.

One mistake you make, though.

The ZD50mm IS indeed weathersealed, just like the 8mm, the 150mm etc. Both HG and SHG are sealed. Only SG not. There are fewer non-sealed primes (the ZD25 and ZD35 are the only ones I think)

As an aside, Voigtlander gets much of it right with their Noktons :

  • black, which looks good on any body

  • lenshood and dual lens caps provided

  • well, OK, not weathersealed but that is slightly less urgent for a non-electronic lens.

Those Noktons (or one of them) will be on my radar after I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

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Rriley wrote:

... for tele lenses I have a fondness for film era Hoya rubber hoods (oh no, now Brian will be looking for these too!)

Thought I was the only one. I use 67mm Hoya rubber hoods and a step up ring.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses.

Selling quality lenses without a lens hood and then charging really quite a lot of money for the lens hoods seems to me like a scam to artificially create an impression of low pricing on the lenses themselves.

Agree entirely: I was disappointed when Panny introduced the 20mm f1.7 with no hood. But the one I bought was under $10 and works fine. But my other three panny lenses all came with appropriate hood.

The one that Oly supply for the 45mm f1.8 is a monstrosity, so I bought a cheap black tubular one, with fits nicely. (I need a push on lens cap to fit over that now!)

(2) Relevant for some lenses : I frankly don't understand the Olympus thought process on choices made for weathersealing and for available colours .

Many of the zooms are available in different colour schemes , offering the buyer a choice of what he prefers with his choice of camera body. The nice past primes, however, seem to be available only in silver. That is fine if you pick a silver camera body, but it looks not so great on a black body. And I would think that the main target audience for those primes are the enthusiasts, many of which will probably get a black body, because it matches their already existing lens collection better.

If the lens is good, it gets wrapped in black pvc tape, who knows, it may even improve the weather protection!!

Same with weathersealing : the fast primes should really be weathersealed, in order to be attractive to the target audience that has waited for the first weathersealed camera body.

Weathersealing is new to µFT with the OM-D so it's only just entered the arena; so I guess many lenses will now be so improved. Pity I've already invested so much, but my Leica & lenses were never weathersealed (but then didn't have expensive electronics to fail) even though I used it in all conditions.

... I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

Now there's a lens that demands weathersealing!!

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The 50/2 was never a speed demon autofocuser on std 4/3 so I doubt you'll be happy with its performance on on a CDAF body. Plus, you have to use it with an MMF (or pany equiv) adapter increasing lens size. It may make the the handling a little front heavy. For street portraiture, if that's your aim, I would go with the 45.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

Landscapephoto99 wrote:

I hope so. Are you thinking there will come an OM-D that surpasses the E-M5 (not a successor, of course), but a separate line that "ranks higher" in the hierarchy. If so, I should probably wait for it. But I won't. The E-M5 ticks enough boxes.

That's what Olympus promised. They said that the E-M5 is not the professional body, though it's enough for me. I suppose the pro OMD will come out next year with all the bells and whistles and an even better sensor. No doubt there will be a great weather sealed zoom that will be released with that camera. I think they were waiting to see how much of a success the E-M5 would be and it really has been a hit.

Are these details? Yes probably. But they still influence my decision making.

I will get both because they are great lenses. For regular 4 3rds, the primes were not weather sealed and I never had a problem. Through monsoon, sand storms in Central Asia, etc. my 50mm f2 took a beating and kept on kicking. In fact it is the first prime I want to use when I finally get my E-M5. Where I am now in Taiwan, though, I do appreciate water sealing a little more.

Same here on wanting to try out the ZD50mm. Could be a great combo if it focuses well enough. And if so, I can wait for a 45mm lens or may not even get it at all.

One mistake you make, though.

The ZD50mm IS indeed weathersealed, just like the 8mm, the 150mm etc. Both HG and SHG are sealed. Only SG not. There are fewer non-sealed primes (the ZD25 and ZD35 are the only ones I think)

Oh, thank you. Didn't know that. The 50mm certainly is an excellent lens. Well my 35 mm Zuiko macro has also been with me through water and dirt too and is still humming along. Won't part with that gem either. I don't need super fast focus for macro.

As an aside, Voigtlander gets much of it right with their Noktons :

  • black, which looks good on any body

  • lenshood and dual lens caps provided

  • well, OK, not weathersealed but that is slightly less urgent for a non-electronic lens.

Those Noktons (or one of them) will be on my radar after I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

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The Silver and black lenses both look fine on the silver OM-D.
Plus it reminds me of my OM-1 (now sitting unused sadly).

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Landscapephoto99 wrote:

RoelHendrickx wrote:

Landscapephoto99 wrote:

I hope so. Are you thinking there will come an OM-D that surpasses the E-M5 (not a successor, of course), but a separate line that "ranks higher" in the hierarchy. If so, I should probably wait for it. But I won't. The E-M5 ticks enough boxes.

That's what Olympus promised. They said that the E-M5 is not the professional body, though it's enough for me. I suppose the pro OMD will come out next year with all the bells and whistles and an even better sensor. No doubt there will be a great weather sealed zoom that will be released with that camera. I think they were waiting to see how much of a success the E-M5 would be and it really has been a hit.

By late next year I will have burned through most of the available shutter count on my E-5 and it will be time for a replacement of that camera.

The replacement might be an E-7 if they still make one (which would be logical if AF of FT lenses on µFT bodies has not yet been further optimized).

Or else it could be an E-M7 that focuses FT glass perfectly and balances those lenses.

In the meantime, I will enjoy my soon to be bought E-M5 as a small secondary camera. I try to live in the now without worrying too much about 2013 cameras. Sure, they will be better than what is on sale today, but I cannot use them next week.

Are these details? Yes probably. But they still influence my decision making.

I will get both because they are great lenses. For regular 4 3rds, the primes were not weather sealed and I never had a problem. Through monsoon, sand storms in Central Asia, etc. my 50mm f2 took a beating and kept on kicking. In fact it is the first prime I want to use when I finally get my E-M5. Where I am now in Taiwan, though, I do appreciate water sealing a little more.

Same here on wanting to try out the ZD50mm. Could be a great combo if it focuses well enough. And if so, I can wait for a 45mm lens or may not even get it at all.

One mistake you make, though.

The ZD50mm IS indeed weathersealed, just like the 8mm, the 150mm etc. Both HG and SHG are sealed. Only SG not. There are fewer non-sealed primes (the ZD25 and ZD35 are the only ones I think)

Oh, thank you. Didn't know that. The 50mm certainly is an excellent lens. Well my 35 mm Zuiko macro has also been with me through water and dirt too and is still humming along. Won't part with that gem either. I don't need super fast focus for macro.

I have the 35mm macro too but don't use it very much. That might change with the E-M5 as it could become one of a set of primes.

As an aside, Voigtlander gets much of it right with their Noktons :

  • black, which looks good on any body

  • lenshood and dual lens caps provided

  • well, OK, not weathersealed but that is slightly less urgent for a non-electronic lens.

Those Noktons (or one of them) will be on my radar after I have tested my current (big FT version of the) Panaleica 25mm F1.4 (and after I have saved some new cash...)

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Tack wrote:

The 50/2 was never a speed demon autofocuser on std 4/3 so I doubt you'll be happy with its performance on on a CDAF body. Plus, you have to use it with an MMF (or pany equiv) adapter increasing lens size. It may make the the handling a little front heavy. For street portraiture, if that's your aim, I would go with the 45.

I've never used the ZD50 as a speed demon. It always focused at a leisurely pace, but accurately. If it does roughly the same on E-M5 that may be enough for me.

Same with the ZD25mm (although that is CDAF-designed).

I don't worry about the size. I've already simulated in on the matching simulation and it looks good. Even with the adapter, it looks not bigger than the 12-50.

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The Silver and black lenses both look fine on the silver OM-D.

I agree that much looks good on that silver body.
But I will not be getting one.

It looks really ugly with the grip and I just like the fact that black does not reflect and thus attracts less attention.

Plus it reminds me of my OM-1 (now sitting unused sadly).

Yes, the resemblance with my OM-2n is also uncanny.
But that is nostalgia, and I prefer black for more practical reasons.

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Regularly use my silver Leica 50 Summilux on my OM5D. Don't much care what the color is. Looking forward to my silver 45/1.8 arriving...

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In reply to RoelHendrickx, Jun 20, 2012

(1) General complaint : I really can't understand and frankly think it is hardly acceptable that lens hoods are not provided with the µFT lenses

I agree that this is pathetic. Panasonic provides a nice lens hood and a pouch; Oly neither. Incredible that you can spend $800 on the 12mm and $900 on 75-300 and not get a hood. Oly are being cheap at the expense of customer relations.

(2) Relevant for some lenses : I frankly don't understand the Olympus thought process on choices made for weathersealing and for available colours.

I think the main reason for a single color on fixed primes was cost--Oly isn't well off financially and didn't know how popular these lenses would be. Some of the lenses were probably beyond the design stage before the decision was made to bring out a weathersealed camera. They also can't afford to make two versions and weathersealing would increase cost of lenses that are already very expensive. Thus they had to weigh potential lost sales from higher costs versus lost sales from lack of weathersealing and opted for the former.

If the OM-D system continues to be a big hit and Oly's financial situation improves, I think we will see weathersealed primes.

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In reply to RoelHendrickx, Jun 20, 2012

Looks like there will be a black 12 and 45

http://www.43rumors.com/

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In reply to MichaelKJ, Jun 20, 2012

I think the issue of weather sealing was hit on the head. Most of the current crop of lenses was out before the OM-D E-M5 was even on the drawing board. I doubt that Olympus even started coming up with the camera more than about year before it was announced/demo'd back in Feb.

Yes, that was before the 12 and 45 were announced, but those lens designs were probably also "set in stone" at least a good 6-12 months before they were announced.

Olympus specifically said with the 75 when asked why it isn't weathersealed that they see it as a portrait and studio lens and not a landscape/sports lens and thus eschewed the weather sealing. It isn't as simple as just slapping a rubber gasket on the back of the lens to full weather seal the thing. They also have to seal up around the focus ring and ensure that there are gaskets at every "screw together" spot and/or make sure the tolerances are such that water/moisture/dust can't get through.

For my part I wish all of them were weather sealed, but at the same time, if it meant to keep the same profit margin that the 75mm f/1.8 was a $949 or $999 lens instead of $899 then I'll take it without weather sealing. Personally I find weather sealing a bit more useful in a zoom, in large part because if I am using the camera/lens in weather where I would want weather sealing, I am not going to want to or be able to safely swap lenses. That said, I have no issues with doing a walk about with just one prime on the camera and not changing lenses until I am home, in my car, etc.

So at some point, yes I'd like some weather sealed primes. My dearest hope is that Olympus is going to redo their 17mm at some point and FINALLY offer a standard prime. It would be great to see a 17mm f/2 weather sealed lens with a price point of $299-399 and a 25mm f/2 weather sealed prime with the same $299-399 price point. Pancakes both, preferably, and very good optical quality.

I'd like at least one weather sealed lens and since I basically use just primes on my camera, a weather sealed prime would be real nice. Also something at the standard focal length or wider as a walk about in bad weather lens (longer than 25mm is just too long as a single prime walk about lens for me).

I'd also love an alternative to the PL 25/1.4. Great lens and all that, but when it comes down to it, f/1.4 would be really nice, but if I could save 20-50% of the cost of the lens I'd give up a half a stop or a stop of speed, especially if there was that much cost savings AND a reduction in size/weight.
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In reply to RoelHendrickx, Jun 20, 2012

I agree lens hoods should be included and I sure as hell won't be paying for the Olympus ones. I bought the 45mm & 25mm 2nd hand and they had hoods included (one generic and the HUGE PL one).

I think the silver 45 looks sharp on the Black body personally.
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