Here comes Apple!

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Here comes Apple!
Jun 17, 2012

The line between phones and consumers level cameras is about to get very blury. All of the phone players have to be thinking along parallel lines.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/15/apple-patent-details-replaceable-back-panels-for-adding-lenses-and-advanced-camera-features/
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Cool! I look forward to seeing what happens with this.

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Maybe uninspiring for a serious photographer, especially at this stage, but Apple knows design and UI better than any electronics maker out there. I'd be keeping this pretty high on my watch list if I were in the business of making compact cameras.

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Way too cumbersome, especially for something that already exists in a more convinient form.

http://hinterlandcameras.com/shop/

Just one example- a case that basically lets you snap on tiny lenses- they have fisheye, macro and wide now, and are soon releasing 2x and 4x teles.

Lots of others

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6158521401P?sid=IDx20101019x00001b&srccode=cii_18492716&cpncode=26-146644820-2

Some basically just attach with a little magnetic ring.

Imagine how cumbersome it would be not only carring around a couple of spare phone backs, but switching them when you want to take a photo.

I really don't see this form of the idea being practical enough to go anywhere.

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The 'backside camera' could be useful!!
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The Jacal wrote:

The 'backside camera' could be useful!!

Backside cameras are the major part of Olympus' business.
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gulffish wrote:

The line between phones and consumers level cameras is about to get very blury. All of the phone players have to be thinking along parallel lines.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/15/apple-patent-details-replaceable-back-panels-for-adding-lenses-and-advanced-camera-features/

The whole notion of the ipod/iphone is small, easy to carry. I suspect Apple's reason for this patent is to sit on it, not to use it -- and to use it to prevent others from trying to develop such items.
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Maybe uninspiring for a serious photographer, especially at this stage, but Apple knows design and UI better than any electronics maker out there.

You mean making garbage that doesn't last!

Look how many iPods/iPads out there that have defective home buttons after only a few months of use, including mine.

All of my Olympus cameras are still working after YEARS of use, and they get a lot more abuse than my iPad.

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I'm no apple fan, but my family's owned quite a few ipods and the only thing that's ever gone wrong is batteries dying after a few years. My son's ipod touch even got real wet, and once it dried out fully it works fine, several years later.

I think that if Apple really had a reliability problem, it would be well known by now, given the huge number of people who own Apple products.
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Comparing your camera to a mass-market electronics device such as a iPod is a bit of a logical fallacy. The expected uses and treatment, and internals are all different. Your Olympus doesn't have a hard drive, for example.

My Canon SD100 was a solid little camera that wouldn't break even when I began to really abuse it. No reason Apple can't match that quality.

My 2004 powermac is still being used, with only a hard drive upgrade about 2 years ago. My brothers 2005 powermac is also getting use. Not too many PC's that can say the same.

My 2007 iMac in my office is still going strong, after my suite-mates have upgraded their windows computers at least once.
My iPhones all outlasted any other phones I've had.

In my opinion Apple products are made better than most other products of similar usage, with the exception of items that are outside their control, such as memory modules, cpus, video cards, and RAM.

THAT being said, I'm a conspiracy theorist, and believe Apple has intentionally crippled their older iOS products by creating operating systems designed to slow them down to the point of uselessness. Case in point is my iPad - it is slow as molasses with the new OS, but was zippy just 2 years ago. I can't see any innovations in the OS that would slow it down to this degree, and am forced to conclude that Apple is "encouraging" me to get a new tablet. I'd sue but it looks like other ppl have failed in this regard.

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Crimguy wrote:

Maybe uninspiring for a serious photographer, especially at this stage, but Apple knows design and UI better than any electronics maker out there.

You mean making garbage that doesn't last!

Look how many iPods/iPads out there that have defective home buttons after only a few months of use, including mine.

All of my Olympus cameras are still working after YEARS of use, and they get a lot more abuse than my iPad.

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Bob Meyer wrote:

I'm no apple fan, but my family's owned quite a few ipods and the only thing that's ever gone wrong is batteries dying after a few years. My son's ipod touch even got real wet, and once it dried out fully it works fine, several years later.

I think that if Apple really had a reliability problem, it would be well known by now, given the huge number of people who own Apple products.

Oh come on, Bob. I'll agree that, like you, I've had, or have knowledge of, dozens of iPads and iPods, and none of them has had any real problems over many years, outside, of course, of batteries wearing out in the course of time.

But, let's face it, when one's iPod has a home-button problem, why: everyone's has a home-button problem. It only takes a sample of one in a case like that.

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I do really enjoy my Apple products, although their iPhone is beginning to look a bit long-in-the-tooth. Their iPhone reliability ratings have been tops for a while now.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/244607/smartphone_reliability_and_satisfaction_iphone_tops_the_list.html

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I'm no apple fan, but my family's owned quite a few ipods and the only thing that's ever gone wrong is batteries dying after a few years. My son's ipod touch even got real wet, and once it dried out fully it works fine, several years later.

I think that if Apple really had a reliability problem, it would be well known by now, given the huge number of people who own Apple products.

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They seem to know design and UI (I find their products confusing, unintuitive, and not all that attractive), but they lag in electronics and actual innovation.

Crimguy wrote:

Maybe uninspiring for a serious photographer, especially at this stage, but Apple knows design and UI better than any electronics maker out there. I'd be keeping this pretty high on my watch list if I were in the business of making compact cameras.

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Perhaps if "prodded" Apple and Olympus could join forces...but if the case, I don't know...I certainly wouldn't buy a used one of those phones. Truly the 'humancentipad' is coming to a store near us...I saw the preliminary design on South Park.

Anyone interested can do a "Google" I've lost the link in my myriad of bookmarks.
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Bob Meyer wrote:

I'm no apple fan, but my family's owned quite a few ipods and the only thing that's ever gone wrong is batteries dying after a few years. My son's ipod touch even got real wet, and once it dried out fully it works fine, several years later.

I think that if Apple really had a reliability problem, it would be well known by now, given the huge number of people who own Apple products.

Oh come on, Bob. I'll agree that, like you, I've had, or have knowledge of, dozens of iPads and iPods, and none of them has had any real problems over many years, outside, of course, of batteries wearing out in the course of time.

But, let's face it, when one's iPod has a home-button problem, why: everyone's has a home-button problem. It only takes a sample of one in a case like that.

What are you trying to say? I can't follow it. You've had dozens of problem free electronics for years, but a single button issue proves the case? Weird logic.

I've always been very impressed with the build quality and overall reliability of apple products, from the desktops and laptops I serviced at work, to the handful of iphones/ipods I've used myself. The only complaint I can come up with is the cheap power cord for the iphone doesn't stand up well to abuse. Other than that, the iphone is rock solid, so I've got to disagree with you there.

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gollywop wrote:

Bob Meyer wrote:

I'm no apple fan, but my family's owned quite a few ipods and the only thing that's ever gone wrong is batteries dying after a few years. My son's ipod touch even got real wet, and once it dried out fully it works fine, several years later.

I think that if Apple really had a reliability problem, it would be well known by now, given the huge number of people who own Apple products.

Oh come on, Bob. I'll agree that, like you, I've had, or have knowledge of, dozens of iPads and iPods, and none of them has had any real problems over many years, outside, of course, of batteries wearing out in the course of time.

But, let's face it, when one's iPod has a home-button problem, why: everyone's has a home-button problem. It only takes a sample of one in a case like that.

What are you trying to say? I can't follow it. You've had dozens of problem free electronics for years, but a single button issue proves the case? Weird logic.

I've always been very impressed with the build quality and overall reliability of apple products, from the desktops and laptops I serviced at work, to the handful of iphones/ipods I've used myself. The only complaint I can come up with is the cheap power cord for the iphone doesn't stand up well to abuse. Other than that, the iphone is rock solid, so I've got to disagree with you there.

You seem to have some trouble with irony. Have you ever been accused of lacking a sense of humor?

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Lights wrote:

Perhaps if "prodded" Apple and Olympus could join forces...

and make an iPod that you can stick up your bottom?

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Sadly I doubt this will ever come about. It's just another way for Apple to be a patent troll and keep the competition from having it and anyone else making advancements.

This doesn't belong in this forum anyway and should be removed.

I'm more interested in the nokia 808 with it's 41 mp camera.

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