An unusual tripod suggestion please...

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Louis_Dobson
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Jun 12, 2012

I need a tripod that packs down small but is very rigid. Unusually, weight is not the issue.

Reason? Needs to fit in motorcycle luggage, but I do very long exposures a lot.
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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Jun 12, 2012

If 16-17" (w/o head) is small enough, look at the G1542T. I removed the head base on the column and installed a BH-25 on it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=gitzo+1542T&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

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I use a Slik Sprint Mini II GM for travel. Super small / light.

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In reply to epm888, Jun 12, 2012

I already have a tiny, light Gitzo.

It's not rigid enough for what I do.

So I am happy to discard light, I just want small. Small, not light, rigid.
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There are some really small Sirui tripods on B&H, but I've never used (or seen) one. Sirui seems to dominate the sub 15" folded category.
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You might want to state the minimum size and maximum support weight requirements (or do a search on B&H starting with the collapsed size range). I suspect you're thinking about something to use in rough water, but that's only with a limited data set to call upon [g].

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Sirui T-2205X is probably your best bet if size is the priority:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822143-REG/Sirui_BSRT2205_T_2205X_5_Section_Carbon_Fiber.html

Having looked at it in the store, I'm confident that it's the stiffest of all the really compact traveller tripods.

The N-2204 is sturdier w/4-section legs and is accordingly larger (but at that size there are other brands available too):

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822246-REG/Sirui_BSRN2204_N_2204_4_Section_Carbon_Fiber.html

I can't vouch for either in actual use though.

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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Jun 12, 2012

What about the Berlebach Minis. There is a Mini and a little larger Mini Maxi.

The tripods have good build quality and are made of wood. The height is low, though (64 cm maxi version).

http://www.berlebach.de/?bereich=details&id=400

Louis_Dobson wrote:

I already have a tiny, light Gitzo.

It's not rigid enough for what I do.

So I am happy to discard light, I just want small. Small, not light, rigid.
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Louis_Dobson wrote:

I need a tripod that packs down small but is very rigid. Unusually, weight is not the issue.

Reason? Needs to fit in motorcycle luggage, but I do very long exposures a lot.

if you want really really rigid
take a look at some video camera tripods
they are heavier
but they have double legs the top 2/3rds
and a brace between the legs toward the bottom that makes them quite stiff

I bought Benro and Im amply happy with it

it has an unusual centring pan head on it that cant be swapped for something else,
it is really easy to centre and level
http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_news/benro_video_tripod_kit_1.jpg

my conventional tripod is also a Benro with a MH5001 Giottos 3 way head

the legs are spreadable for macro, while that makes it very stable it does get quite low

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or.... you could go with a 'conventional' tripod, get a rigid (tube) case for it, and strap it on the outside of your panniers.

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I have seen anything like what you describe. I pack a light tripod on my motorcycle, maybe some sandbags would help?

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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Jun 12, 2012

What exactly are you trying to do that the Gitzo can't handle? Unless you are mounting some huge legacy lens on your m43 camera I'd think it should work, especially if you hang a weight off the center column.

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Bob Tullis wrote:

If 16-17" (w/o head) is small enough, look at the G1542T. I removed the head base on the column and installed a BH-25 on it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=gitzo+1542T&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

I just bought the same tripod) and it's excellent. (Thanks for the suggestion, Bob! )

Yes, it folds down to 16 3/4". I use mine with an RRS BH-30 ball head, with a panning base and the simple platform.

If you want to set it up close to the ground, you can remove the center column and attach a head directly on the tripod base. There's a spring-loaded hook for hanging a weight for extra stability, too.

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Louis_Dobson wrote:

I need a tripod that packs down small but is very rigid. Unusually, weight is not the issue.

Reason? Needs to fit in motorcycle luggage, but I do very long exposures a lot.

I was curious, and while I was waiting for a program to finish, I went over to B&H, and looked at leg only setups (I'm assuming you would want to pack the head separately to cut down on the size).

For the tripods that fold down to 40-50cm (15-20"), and can support 9kg (20lb) or more, lets see, there are tripods from:

  • Benro (folds flat, presumably more for a suitcase)

  • Feisol

  • Gitzo (from the picture the legs look spindly, so I'm not sure about the weight claim)

  • Photo Clam (several models, I've never heard of them)

  • Redged (one model, again, I haven't heard of them)

  • Sirui (several models, mentioned by others)

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In reply to mh2000, Jun 12, 2012

Nothing exciting. First shot here is done with the travel tripod. I don't think it is totally sharp.

Next shot is the travel tripod.

Last shot is done with my real tripod.

I don't really want a tripod with spindly legs, I want one with thick, chunky legs, but that folds up short enough to fit in a motorcycle pannier...

mh2000 wrote:

What exactly are you trying to do that the Gitzo can't handle? Unless you are mounting some huge legacy lens on your m43 camera I'd think it should work, especially if you hang a weight off the center column.

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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Jun 12, 2012

Lou, was thinking at first about the TrekPod Go Pro, now that I see your photo examples, not sure, but below is the info anyway from another post, you might also check out all the other recos from this other current tread if you haven't already...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&thread=41768292

The TrekPod might have an advantage vs. your travel tripod due to the sturdy center column and the roughly triangular cross section of the legs. Note that the TrekPod Go Pro can be used with just one section for a table height tripod or all sections for full height. Would of course expect the single section config. to be a bit more stable.

Regarding the photos, wonder how much of the slight softness in the first one is due to shooting wider on the lens and the in-camera processing for shooting the much longer exposure? Just a thought, but perhaps you are seeing this difference across a broader range of exposure conditions...

Anyway, here are the TrekPod options, again, believe the Go Pro would be of most interest...

+++++++++++TrekPod++++++++++

I've used MANY tripods over the years, but have now settled on TrekPods for m4/3rds and lighter gear, they are hybrid monopod/tripod/walking staff designs. Use as a staff/monopod, then, if needed, spread the three feet to create a tripod. Light weight and sturdy enough to be a true hiking staff, I've used these all over the world with smaller cams, would easily handle the OMD. There are three models, Go Pro, XL, II. Own the Go and II. I especially like the Go for the way it packs very compactly, easily fits in carry on luggage in it's own soft case.

My top four benefits:

  • single device that covers monopod, tripod and hiking staff

  • breaks down for easy, compact travel

  • very light, but very sturdy, ergonomic, and well built

  • clever mag mount you can leave on your camera and mount on the pod in seconds when needed.

Weights (including MagMount):

TrekPod Go! PRO 30 ounces / .794 kg
TrekPod XL 17 ounces / .48 kg
TrekPod II 27 ounces / .765 kg

Height range in tripod mode 39" to 57.5" / 99 to 146 cm
Height range in Hiking staff/monopod mode 42.5" to 62.5" / 106.7 cm to 158.8 cm

Go! PROin included travel case: 23" x 4" x 2.5" / 58.4 x 10.2 x 6.3 cm (longest Go! tube length 22" / 55.9 cm)

They make a variety of useful add-ons as well, see the trek-tech.com website for details. I really like using these, every detail is carefully thought out, and every part has a high quality feel emoticon - smile. Available on Amazon and B&H among others.

Here is an image of the Go PRO...

Hope this helps!
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In reply to Michael Meissner, Jun 12, 2012

I was working on 15KG or more. Yes, the Gitzos are spindly.

I'll go look at B&H if they have the "put in size and weight" search you seem to be implying!

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Louis_Dobson wrote:

I need a tripod that packs down small but is very rigid. Unusually, weight is not the issue.

Reason? Needs to fit in motorcycle luggage, but I do very long exposures a lot.

I was curious, and while I was waiting for a program to finish, I went over to B&H, and looked at leg only setups (I'm assuming you would want to pack the head separately to cut down on the size).

For the tripods that fold down to 40-50cm (15-20"), and can support 9kg (20lb) or more, lets see, there are tripods from:

  • Benro (folds flat, presumably more for a suitcase)

  • Feisol

  • Gitzo (from the picture the legs look spindly, so I'm not sure about the weight claim)

  • Photo Clam (several models, I've never heard of them)

  • Redged (one model, again, I haven't heard of them)

  • Sirui (several models, mentioned by others)

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Louis_Dobson wrote:

I was working on 15KG or more. Yes, the Gitzos are spindly.

The Sirui N-2204 I linked to above claims 15KG or thereabouts.

I'll go look at B&H if they have the "put in size and weight" search you seem to be implying!

It generally works well, but occasionally I've noticed items don't show up where they should. You might want to double check some of the suggestions made here manually even if they don't appear in your search.

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I have one of these http://www.wilkinson.co.uk/leica-table-top-tripod-14100.html

You can't get anything more rigid, but it isn't very big either. Can be carried in a pocket.

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Michael Meissner wrote:

For the tripods that fold down to 40-50cm (15-20"), and can support 9kg (20lb) or more, lets see, there are tripods from:

  • Benro (folds flat, presumably more for a suitcase)

  • Feisol

  • Gitzo (from the picture the legs look spindly, so I'm not sure about the weight claim)

  • Photo Clam (several models, I've never heard of them)

  • Redged (one model, again, I haven't heard of them)

  • Sirui (several models, mentioned by others)

You could also add the RRS TVC-24 Versa Series 2 Tripod to your list. It folds down to 18" but is rated to support 40lbs. RRS tripods are sturdy but quite expensive.

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