E-M5, airport jets landing

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Martin Ocando
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In reply to morepix, Jun 4, 2012

I know, is just a basic photo of a plane in the tarmac. Nothing fancy. But I was trying to at least show the OP the basics.

That sing went well, isn't it ? And what about the "m" in ".com" ?

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Martin Ocando wrote:

HAHAHA... Hilarious ... How about now ?

You did a fine job of replacing the "C" on that sign! Aside from that, I don't find a lot of merit in the photo, but that replacement is a masterful piece of Photoshopmanship.
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Re: This is one place where the LCD is....
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muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Brian Mosley wrote:

You have a dust spot, upper right of your shots here. It looks big enough to be on your lens.

Did you notice his finger in the way of the lens at the lower right corner too or are you just ignoring that?

Otherwise, nice attempts... thanks for sharing and keep it up!

They are horrible and you know it.

Why lie?

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it looks like he is rolling the camera as he presses the shutter, he needs to watch periphery objects whilst tracking the subject(which can be difficult at times) and keep his equipment clean, he has done well considering m4/3's is supposed to be horrible tracking, i hope he keeps trying and improving
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an advantage.

You know exactly where the planes are going to go. So you set the camera up on the tripod, set up the framing and focus, step back a bit from the lcd, and wait for the plane to move into the correct framing. Then blast away with sequence shooting.

Sort of like using a rangefinder and watching the subject move into the frame lines.

Using the EVF here is a disadvantage.

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

TEdolph, RIP

i would of handheld the camera for the shots and tracked the aircraft as they came in, firing a burst of shots at the moment i thought the framing e.t.c was the best, and then relocated a few times if possible to vary the shots themselves
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In reply to Martin Ocando, Jun 4, 2012

I liked the poles. They gave it context. You can't get round the fact it is static and at a airport, so use it?

Martin Ocando wrote:
HAHAHA... Hilarious.

How about now ?

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Well, for starters, keep the entire plane on the frame, not clipping the tips of the wings. Next would be giving a bit of room in the front. Then recover some shadow, bring some contrast back to a cloudy ugly light day by playing with curves, clarity and bring a tad of saturation back with vibrance. And lastly, the poles are distracting and look like growing out of the plane, so I'll take them out carefully in Photoshop, since Lightroom tools are not very good for cloning something different than a dust spot.

The man in the yellow vest is too close to the border, and the tug tractor is clipped, but I had a big wall there, so I had no space to play with that, and I couldn't get closer to leave some room for them, so they'll have to stay that way. BTW, the photo is not about them, but the plane. Maybe once I clone out the poles, I'll take some of the sky as well, since it has no detail.

Actually, I'll take the tug and the top of the car away too, and leave the man alone.

Martin is being "mean" and "in your face". How dare he pierce Photoperzon's delicate skin with objectitve critisizm!

Better ?

No!

Worse!

You criticized by example and you are not Ansel Adams!

You violated Louis' cardinal rule!

You should be banned!

tedolf wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:

There was something covering the left side of your lens in all your pictures. Finger? fence pole?

I went to the airport a few weeks ago, and couldn't get close to the runway, I just snapped a few. This is one that is barely passable. I'll clone out the poles later.

some of the basic things you kept in mind when taking this shot....

he might learn something.

for example, I am sure he doesn't understand why you want to clone out those poles.

This is a teachable moment!

Tedolph, RIP

You are a mean and cruel man, a detriment to the forum!

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Planes are in focus, other things are not, so that's a good start. It is remarkably hard to get a decent angle around airports these days, but second best would be no extraneous items, best would be interesting extraneous items, and basically non ideal is the perimeter fence - in my opinion.
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In reply to photo perzon, Jun 4, 2012

Because YOU enjoy, making the pics
Because YOU post them here
Because YOU love photography, spend a lot of money and time in it
Because YOU are kind enought to read all the post here without no complaints.
So thanks Photo Perzon for post your pics.

I don´t really like to much the subject, so I can´t tell you so much further than Brian´s opinion. IMHO your pics don´t transmit any emotion or intention...but keep on trying, some day you´ll fell that you get it, it´s a quaestion of time.

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muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Brian Mosley wrote:

You have a dust spot, upper right of your shots here. It looks big enough to be on your lens.

Did you notice his finger in the way of the lens at the lower right corner too or are you just ignoring that?

Otherwise, nice attempts... thanks for sharing and keep it up!

They are horrible and you know it.

Why lie?

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TEdolph, RIP

it looks like he is rolling the camera as he presses the shutter, he needs to watch periphery objects whilst tracking the subject(which can be difficult at times) and keep his equipment clean, he has done well considering m4/3's is supposed to be horrible tracking, i hope he keeps trying and improving
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an advantage.

You know exactly where the planes are going to go. So you set the camera up on the tripod, set up the framing and focus, step back a bit from the lcd, and wait for the plane to move into the correct framing. Then blast away with sequence shooting.

Sort of like using a rangefinder and watching the subject move into the frame lines.

Using the EVF here is a disadvantage.

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

TEdolph, RIP

i would of handheld the camera for the shots and tracked the aircraft as they came in, firing a burst of shots at the moment i thought the framing e.t.c was the best, and then relocated a few times if possible to vary the shots themselves
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Obvioulsy, you never used a rangefinder!

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

Tedolph, RIP

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Re: Silk purse from a sow's ear?
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Martin Ocando wrote:

I know, is just a basic photo of a plane in the tarmac. Nothing fancy. But I was trying to at least show the OP the basics.

Well, there are no parts cut off, he didn't use barbed wire as the forground, and he removed the false attachements.

Compared to what Photoperzon posted, it is a master piece from the Louver!

That sing went well, isn't it ? And what about the "m" in ".com" ?

morepix wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:

HAHAHA... Hilarious ... How about now ?

You did a fine job of replacing the "C" on that sign! Aside from that, I don't find a lot of merit in the photo, but that replacement is a masterful piece of Photoshopmanship.
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I liked the poles. They gave it context. You can't get round the fact it is static and at a airport, so use it?

You are just being a contrarian because in this thread your were completely wrong and everybody agrees that you were wrong.

How does that make you feel?

Martin Ocando wrote:
HAHAHA... Hilarious.

How about now ?

tedolf wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:

Well, for starters, keep the entire plane on the frame, not clipping the tips of the wings. Next would be giving a bit of room in the front. Then recover some shadow, bring some contrast back to a cloudy ugly light day by playing with curves, clarity and bring a tad of saturation back with vibrance. And lastly, the poles are distracting and look like growing out of the plane, so I'll take them out carefully in Photoshop, since Lightroom tools are not very good for cloning something different than a dust spot.

The man in the yellow vest is too close to the border, and the tug tractor is clipped, but I had a big wall there, so I had no space to play with that, and I couldn't get closer to leave some room for them, so they'll have to stay that way. BTW, the photo is not about them, but the plane. Maybe once I clone out the poles, I'll take some of the sky as well, since it has no detail.

Actually, I'll take the tug and the top of the car away too, and leave the man alone.

Martin is being "mean" and "in your face". How dare he pierce Photoperzon's delicate skin with objectitve critisizm!

Better ?

No!

Worse!

You criticized by example and you are not Ansel Adams!

You violated Louis' cardinal rule!

You should be banned!

tedolf wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:

There was something covering the left side of your lens in all your pictures. Finger? fence pole?

I went to the airport a few weeks ago, and couldn't get close to the runway, I just snapped a few. This is one that is barely passable. I'll clone out the poles later.

some of the basic things you kept in mind when taking this shot....

he might learn something.

for example, I am sure he doesn't understand why you want to clone out those poles.

This is a teachable moment!

Tedolph, RIP

You are a mean and cruel man, a detriment to the forum!

Tedolph, RIP

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ROTFL

Is not a bird. Is the OP's camera disguised as a bird.

nevada5 wrote:

Picture #4 is not a jet landing. I stared at it for 10 minutes and I'm sure of it now. It's a bird.
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Louis_Dobson wrote:

Planes are in focus,

the planes are at infinity!

How could you not get them in focus!

other things are not, so that's a good start. It is remarkably hard to get a decent angle around airports these days, but second best would be no extraneous items, best would be interesting extraneous items, and basically non ideal is the perimeter fence - in my opinion.
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In plane language, they are horrible.

Why can't you just say it!

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It is time for me to commie suicide....
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Re: Nice job

Again!

enrique santa wrote:
Because YOU enjoy, making the pics
Because YOU post them here
Because YOU love photography, spend a lot of money and time in it
Because YOU are kind enought to read all the post here without no complaints.
So thanks Photo Perzon for post your pics.

I don´t really like to much the subject, so I can´t tell you so much further than Brian´s opinion. IMHO your pics don´t transmit any emotion or intention...but keep on trying, some day you´ll fell that you get it, it´s a quaestion of time.

So if you put a hundred monkeys in a room with typewriters for a thousand years........

is that what you are saying?

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Re: This is one place where the LCD is....
In reply to tedolf, Jun 4, 2012

tedolf wrote:

muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Brian Mosley wrote:

You have a dust spot, upper right of your shots here. It looks big enough to be on your lens.

Did you notice his finger in the way of the lens at the lower right corner too or are you just ignoring that?

Otherwise, nice attempts... thanks for sharing and keep it up!

They are horrible and you know it.

Why lie?

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TEdolph, RIP

it looks like he is rolling the camera as he presses the shutter, he needs to watch periphery objects whilst tracking the subject(which can be difficult at times) and keep his equipment clean, he has done well considering m4/3's is supposed to be horrible tracking, i hope he keeps trying and improving
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an advantage.

You know exactly where the planes are going to go. So you set the camera up on the tripod, set up the framing and focus, step back a bit from the lcd, and wait for the plane to move into the correct framing. Then blast away with sequence shooting.

Sort of like using a rangefinder and watching the subject move into the frame lines.

Using the EVF here is a disadvantage.

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

TEdolph, RIP

i would of handheld the camera for the shots and tracked the aircraft as they came in, firing a burst of shots at the moment i thought the framing e.t.c was the best, and then relocated a few times if possible to vary the shots themselves
--

Obvioulsy, you never used a rangefinder!

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

Tedolph, RIP

i have shot and still own and shoot rangefinders, i also shoot lots and lots aviation
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tedolf wrote:

Louis_Dobson wrote:

Planes are in focus,

the planes are at infinity!

How could you not get them in focus!

other things are not, so that's a good start. It is remarkably hard to get a decent angle around airports these days, but second best would be no extraneous items, best would be interesting extraneous items, and basically non ideal is the perimeter fence - in my opinion.
--

In plane language, they are horrible.

Why can't you just say it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acam
http://thegentlemansnapper.blogspot.com

Tedolph, RIP

aircraft are not always at infinity and most modern lenses go past this to take in humidity and heat variations, just saying they are horrible helps nobody but that's a different tail
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Looks like a birdplane to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6hmUv06tg

PhotoPerzon, keep on enjoying your hobby. You earn as much doing it as 95% of your critics so it´s all good

tedolf wrote:

Martin Ocando wrote:
ROTFL

Is not a bird. Is the OP's camera disguised as a bird.

nevada5 wrote:

Picture #4 is not a jet landing. I stared at it for 10 minutes and I'm sure of it now. It's a bird.
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Did it occur to anyone the OP just post this stuff to sit back and watch what happens
In reply to photo perzon, Jun 4, 2012

I think its pretty obvious to anyone these are for all purposes pretty poor photos unless they were taken by a 10 year old. There are nothing anyone would be proud of showing off.

And yet here we have a thread with over 50 post, interesting when you consider that most threads that actually have some really good and interesting photos from peoples travels to exotic destinations get maybe 10 or so comments.

So what gives ? Is everyone really impressed with these ? Anyone right click one to save it to their desktop because they think its such a great image they want it as a screen saver etc ? Of course not.

Rather what it seems these images do is pit a classic case of the angles on one shoulder vs the devils on another.

It brings out those who will never say anything but a kind word no matter how poor they think it is because they want to be positive.

These are the people that don't like having grades in schools and like all youth sporting events to not keep score.

Then there are those who enjoy pointing out every fault as if its a game of the person who list the most things "wrong" gets a prize

These two sides then can't help clashing, with the "devils" flipping out that anyone could say something nice about what we basically all know is bad photography.

The "angles" for all their peace and love mantra can't help but laying into those who don't follow the righteous path of positivity.

Next thing you know we've got a 150 post thread out of some utterly boring, uncreative, poor photography that really wasn't worth viewing in the first place.

Perhaps the OP knows this all too well and simply throws up some random snapshots under the guise of being his "art" simply to watch the fireworks.

Seems the most likely explanation to me.

Its a new kind of trolling if you will. Rather than making blatant statements about one brand vs another which most of learned to ignore, thusly taking the fun away, the resourceful troll has learned out to play forum members against each other, not along fanboy lines, but by playing to our personalities and human nature.

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Because I'm not an obnoxious git?

tedolf wrote:

Louis_Dobson wrote:

Planes are in focus,

the planes are at infinity!

How could you not get them in focus!

other things are not, so that's a good start. It is remarkably hard to get a decent angle around airports these days, but second best would be no extraneous items, best would be interesting extraneous items, and basically non ideal is the perimeter fence - in my opinion.
--

In plane language, they are horrible.

Why can't you just say it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acam
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Tedolph, RIP

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....me thinks

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Clouds were wrong yesterday, I was by an airport, so, why not? Done any planes recently, Oh Dead One?

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muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

muddyfunster wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Brian Mosley wrote:

You have a dust spot, upper right of your shots here. It looks big enough to be on your lens.

Did you notice his finger in the way of the lens at the lower right corner too or are you just ignoring that?

Otherwise, nice attempts... thanks for sharing and keep it up!

They are horrible and you know it.

Why lie?

Cheers

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TEdolph, RIP

it looks like he is rolling the camera as he presses the shutter, he needs to watch periphery objects whilst tracking the subject(which can be difficult at times) and keep his equipment clean, he has done well considering m4/3's is supposed to be horrible tracking, i hope he keeps trying and improving
--

an advantage.

You know exactly where the planes are going to go. So you set the camera up on the tripod, set up the framing and focus, step back a bit from the lcd, and wait for the plane to move into the correct framing. Then blast away with sequence shooting.

Sort of like using a rangefinder and watching the subject move into the frame lines.

Using the EVF here is a disadvantage.

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

TEdolph, RIP

i would of handheld the camera for the shots and tracked the aircraft as they came in, firing a burst of shots at the moment i thought the framing e.t.c was the best, and then relocated a few times if possible to vary the shots themselves
--

Obvioulsy, you never used a rangefinder!

the night is dark.....and full of terriers

Tedolph, RIP

i have shot and still own and shoot rangefinders, i also shoot lots and lots aviation
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Then why don't you agree with what I said?

Tedolph, RIP

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I have one that looks like yours

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