Using camera without a strap? Anyone? Neck sufferers wanted

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José Ramos
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Using camera without a strap? Anyone? Neck sufferers wanted
Jun 1, 2012

Since I´ve bought my a55 I noticed I stopped using a strap. To avoid neck pain from carrying it all day long (with a sigma 10-20mm and filters) I bought a strap with more padding and width, but it just made handling the a55 too cumbersome.

I removed the strap and have been using it without a strap ever since. Much less cumbersome when I want to mount it on a tripod and, when I´m not using it, I just put it in my backpack.

So far I´ve never let it fell, as I´m aware I´m carrying hundreds of euros on my hands...

Now I bought the a77, and it´s much heavier, so I guess I´m not going to put this one around my neck either.

Or will I? How have all of you "neck sufferers" solved your problem?

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I use the alpha wrist strap all the time, love it! When I do use a strap it's a sling and the camera is at my side.

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In reply to José Ramos, Jun 1, 2012

My neck started hurting too. The solution for me was the BlackRapid sling:
http://www.blackrapid.com/

Extremely comfortable even when carrying the A77 with a 4.2 lb lens.
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In reply to José Ramos, Jun 1, 2012

You can try the cotton carrier system.

Does free up the strain on the neck!

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OK there are several issues here... one is comfort, and the other is safety.. About 5 years ago I was involved with a company called Black Rapid .... the concept was breaking new ground in the attempt to remove pressure and weight off your neck. Now I use two cameras with grips and 4 batteries and one long heavy lens and one shorter ( wide lens ) when in the field so i use a double Black Rapid harness.. I also use the Sony wrist straps. If I do not hook my cameras to the double harness, I can uses these wrist straps to act like handles.. With the smooth finish of most cameras, the potential to have one slip out of your hand is very possible... by putting your hand through a wrist strap, it becomes locked onto your hand in a much more positive and safe way..These wrist straps are expensive, and I bought the cheap ones off Ebay from several different manufacturers.. the Sony ones are by far the best wrist straps out there,., I failed my own directive by falling victim to my own adage.,, that I can not afford to buy anything too cheap,,, I bought cheap wrist straps for 20 dollars, and hated them...I bought one from Sony and the quality was so good I bought a second one.. now I bought the cheap ones from eBay instead of buying what I should have bought in the first place making the right purchase even more expensive when you add the cost of the cheap wrist straps

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I made a custom strap that can be used as a hand strap, wrist strap or as a shoulder strap. The shoulder strap itself is a very comfortable 3" wide strap that distributes the weight of my A77 and Sigma 50-500mm evenly so I can cary the combination comfortably all day long. It is hand made in the USA by Couch Guitar Straps, Inc.

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In reply to José Ramos, Jun 1, 2012

As funny as it may sound, I use a Wii wrist strap and it's probably one of the best tidbits of advice I've ever gotten on this forum. It doesn't win any design awards and gives my a57 a decidedly low-tech look since the strap is white and the camera black, but I like that I can tighten it down to my left wrist and clutch the camera in my left hand which frees up my right hand to do the things right hander's do. That's not possible when you attach it to your right hand with the typical one handed shooting grip. Since I know it it's impossible to drop farther than a few inches even if it slips out of my hand, it also means I'm not applying the death grip to it. And finally, since it can dangle from my wrist if needed, I can even grab stuff out of my left pocket and do two handed things like pull money out of my wallet as long as I keep an eye on the clearance below my hands.

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Karl Scharf wrote:

I made a custom strap that can be used as a hand strap, wrist strap or as a shoulder strap. The shoulder strap itself is a very comfortable 3" wide strap that distributes the weight of my A77 and Sigma 50-500mm evenly so I can cary the combination comfortably all day long. It is hand made in the USA by Couch Guitar Straps, Inc.

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Here is a link to the strap site:
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Tom2572 wrote:

As funny as it may sound, I use a Wii wrist strap and it's probably one of the best tidbits of advice I've ever gotten on this forum. It doesn't win any design awards and gives my a57 a decidedly low-tech look since the strap is white and the camera black, but I like that I can tighten it down to my left wrist and clutch the camera in my left hand which frees up my right hand to do the things right hander's do. That's not possible when you attach it to your right hand with the typical one handed shooting grip. Since I know it it's impossible to drop farther than a few inches even if it slips out of my hand, it also means I'm not applying the death grip to it. And finally, since it can dangle from my wrist if needed, I can even grab stuff out of my left pocket and do two handed things like pull money out of my wallet as long as I keep an eye on the clearance below my hands.

Seeing Evilone's post though, I'll acknowledge that there's probably a limit to what the Wii stap could handle. A77 with a prime, sure, A77 with vertical grip and 70-300g, probably not....

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Been using the R-strap plus the wrist strap for several years, it also holds two camera batteries, 8 AA batteries for the flash, the tripod plate for the VG and a case with 4 memory cards. I'm 67 and never get the neck pain I used to eve after 12 hours

I also use the wrist strap made by Sony. I did use a cheap wrist strap for a while and I agree the Alpha version is much better
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I see that the rapidblack product screws onto the tripod socket, so I wouldn´t use it, since I use my camera with the manfrotto tripod adapter screwed in.

Are there any sling straps which do not attach to the tripod screw?

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Been using the R-strap plus the wrist strap for several years, it also holds two camera batteries, 8 AA batteries for the flash, the tripod plate for the VG and a case with 4 memory cards. I'm 67 and never get the neck pain I used to eve after 12 hours

I also use the wrist strap made by Sony. I did use a cheap wrist strap for a while and I agree the Alpha version is much better
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You are not the only one. I use wrist strap for my A900 (heavier than A77), much easier getting in and out of bag, and mounting on tripod. I also have Canon 7D and Sigma 120-300/2.8 setup that's 10-lbs beast, again I don't use strap, just use lens collar for carrying around.

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José Ramos wrote:

I see that the rapidblack product screws onto the tripod socket, so I wouldn´t use it, since I use my camera with the manfrotto tripod adapter screwed in.

Are there any sling straps which do not attach to the tripod screw?

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Been using the R-strap plus the wrist strap for several years, it also holds two camera batteries, 8 AA batteries for the flash, the tripod plate for the VG and a case with 4 memory cards. I'm 67 and never get the neck pain I used to eve after 12 hours

I also use the wrist strap made by Sony. I did use a cheap wrist strap for a while and I agree the Alpha version is much better
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In reply to José Ramos, Jun 1, 2012

Black Rapid makes a Manfrotto Tripod adapter with a Black Rapid D ring.. I use it all the time on my heavy lens and camera... Its designed to safely use a black rapid strap or harness and still be able to quickly attach to your manfrotto tripod..

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I use the same tripod as you do.

Unfortunately it seems there might be some problems with this product, as can be seen here - http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=948056

About the physical distribution of weight using a sling product like this? Will the weight load be evenly distributed between the two body sides, or will the shoulder supporting the strap suffer a much higher load?

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Black Rapid makes a Manfrotto Tripod adapter with a Black Rapid D ring.. I use it all the time on my heavy lens and camera... Its designed to safely use a black rapid strap or harness and still be able to quickly attach to your manfrotto tripod..

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José Ramos wrote:
I use the same tripod as you do.

Unfortunately it seems there might be some problems with this product, as can be seen here - http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=948056

About the physical distribution of weight using a sling product like this? Will the weight load be evenly distributed between the two body sides, or will the shoulder supporting the strap suffer a much higher load?

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Black Rapid makes a Manfrotto Tripod adapter with a Black Rapid D ring.. I use it all the time on my heavy lens and camera... Its designed to safely use a black rapid strap or harness and still be able to quickly attach to your manfrotto tripod..

Since I use a VG my strap connects to a small ring I put over the lower part of the wrist strap.

Prior to getting the VG I used a Manfrotto plate made by Camedia where the R-strap connection could be made on the side of the plate rather than the D-Ring.

I've carried the A700 + VG + Bigma lens on the R-Strap for hours at an airshow, I don't recall one shoulder feeling any different than thew other.

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José Ramos wrote:

I use the same tripod as you do.

Unfortunately it seems there might be some problems with this product, as can be seen here - http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=948056

Ive had no problems with my BR manfrotto tripod plate, it engages my camera properly with no hint of becoming loose. it locks onto my RC2 in a very positive way and could not figure how the two pieces could disengage. Unless the poster of that thread did not lock the plate into the receiver and tried to blame BR for their own incopedence. Ive used that plate hundreds of times., with no issues. I just now went over the plate and tried to get it to become less than secure, and could not find a way to do that....

About the physical distribution of weight using a sling product like this? Will the weight load be evenly distributed between the two body sides, or will the shoulder supporting the strap suffer a much higher load?

EvilOne wrote:

Black Rapid makes a Manfrotto Tripod adapter with a Black Rapid D ring.. I use it all the time on my heavy lens and camera... Its designed to safely use a black rapid strap or harness and still be able to quickly attach to your manfrotto tripod..

Since I use a VG my strap connects to a small ring I put over the lower part of the wrist strap.

Prior to getting the VG I used a Manfrotto plate made by Camedia where the R-strap connection could be made on the side of the plate rather than the D-Ring.

I've carried the A700 + VG + Bigma lens on the R-Strap for hours at an airshow, I don't recall one shoulder feeling any different than thew other.

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I've got a herniated disc in my neck and a couple in my lower back and with my black rapid strap carrying my a77 and tamron 70-200:2.8 I can carry it all day long and not even notice it.

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I have no solution. I often carry two cameras, one on each shoulder. I'm lucky to have shoulders that things can hang on. Everything falls off of my husband's shoulders.

I bought a two-camera sling but I haven't used it. I didn't want the one that uses up the tripod screw. OK, I "never" use a tripod, but theoretically... I had to remove the straps. I didn't like that and fiddled with putting the thingy for the sling onto the strap. That is a mess but playing with straps is no fun... At this moment I can't even find the sling... If I'm not ever going to use it, I should remove its clips from my cameras.

I don't understand wrist straps. If you aren't holding on to the camera, does it dangle from your wrist? I wouldnt' be comfortable with that, for the safety of the camera.

There really is no good answer that I've found. Plus I now have three cameras I use regularly. A55 and A77 with 2 out of my 4 lenses on them and a Panasonic G1 infrared conversion. My experience with bad dirt on my A77 sensor really makes me reluctant to change lenses.

When I work out of the car I'm OK. When not, I usually have a normal backpack with bubble wrap to separate things. I have a LowePro sling, but my A77 with the 200-500 lens on it doesn't fit.

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G6u7a1m wrote:

I've got a herniated disc in my neck and a couple in my lower back and with my black rapid strap carrying my a77 and tamron 70-200:2.8 I can carry it all day long and not even notice it.

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I have the exact same afflictions; two in my neck and two in my lower back.. and I can hike 5 miles and carry 22 lbs of cameras grips and batteries with heavy lenses all day using the BR harness.. I could never do that with an around your neck type strap. Although am in pretty good shape for an old guy... I spend two hours a day7 days a week at the gym and train just so i can hike and also live to see my grandchildren graduate from college...
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