what would be the better camera/lens combo out of these?

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kobeson
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what would be the better camera/lens combo out of these?
May 29, 2012

Upgrading from 550D to 5D3 at the moment, and have my eye on a 16-35II but the price is high, and to be honest I feel like it is a 95% top Canon L lens from the reading I have done. The other lens I have in my sights is the 70-200f4IS, so I am wondering which of thses 2 combos would be more beneficial:

550D/10-22 + 5D3/70-200f4IS

550D/55-250 + 5D3/16-35II

I do shoot more wide than tele work, so the 16-35 is my first preference - but I just wonder how much improvement in my shots I would notice going from 550D/10-22 to 5D3/16-35II?

Obviously the 70-22f4IS is miles ahead of the 55-250 optically, but have far ahead of the 10-22 is the 16-35II overall? Difficult to judge I guess, but I have a limited budget due to the 5D3 purchase, so it is one of the other for a while.

Note I will also be buying a Sigma 50/1.4, and I have a Canon 100L already, so these two focal ranges are the 2 I am interested in - the mid zooms are not for me.

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Anybody?

Assuming the 55-250 combo is the lesser...

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You say you shoot wide angle more often, so you should go for the 5D3 + 16-35L. Once you get the 5D3, you won't want to touch the 550D. I would sell the 550D and any EF-S glass you have, and get the 5D3, 16-35, and 70-200. You don't need two bodies unless you are shooting weddings and events regularly.

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Thanks for the reply!

Yeah I kinda wondered if that might happen - am contemplating keeping the 550D if I do pick up any weddings/events down the line, but will sell it if I can I guess. Difficult decision as I don't know where this is going to take me at this stage.

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kobeson wrote:

Thanks for the reply!

Sure thing.

Yeah I kinda wondered if that might happen - am contemplating keeping the 550D if I do pick up any weddings/events down the line, but will sell it if I can I guess. Difficult decision as I don't know where this is going to take me at this stage.

It will. I used to have a 7D and a 5D2. I sold both to get the 5D3, and I would do it again. I figure if I do get any serious events or weddings (which is business that I don't normally pursue), I can rent a 2nd body.

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Yeah, see you could sell almost all of that and get a 5D3, 16-35, and 70-200/4. I'd just keep the 100L. I'm not sure what the Nissin and Raynox bits are. If you keep your 550D another generation longer you may as well gift it to a child.

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Have you considered the Tokina 16-28 2.8 lens. Many tests show this as sharper than the Canon 16-35II and is about $900.

I would agree that you will not use your old camera much after getting the 5DIII.

The 70-200 is one of the sharpest zooms that Canon makes and as long as you don't need more light, you will love that lens.
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In reply to JackM, May 30, 2012

If I could get even $500 for my 550D + 2 kit lenses, then that $500 later on could possibly buy me a 650D to replace it without the lenses (depending on how long) or even as you say, to rent a 2nd body for a day. Good theory

Nissin flash and Raynox closeup clip on - I don't use the Raynox any longer, should remove from my sig now I have the macro L. But yes, I would look at doing exactly as you mentioned.

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kobeson wrote:

Thanks for the reply!

Sure thing.

Yeah I kinda wondered if that might happen - am contemplating keeping the 550D if I do pick up any weddings/events down the line, but will sell it if I can I guess. Difficult decision as I don't know where this is going to take me at this stage.

It will. I used to have a 7D and a 5D2. I sold both to get the 5D3, and I would do it again. I figure if I do get any serious events or weddings (which is business that I don't normally pursue), I can rent a 2nd body.

Canon EOS 550D (gripped) | Canon 100mm f2.8L IS | Canon EF-S 10-22/3.5-4.5 USM | Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM | Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II | Canon EF-S 55-250 f4-5.6 IS | Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS | Nissin Di622 Mark II | Raynox DCR-250

Yeah, see you could sell almost all of that and get a 5D3, 16-35, and 70-200/4. I'd just keep the 100L. I'm not sure what the Nissin and Raynox bits are. If you keep your 550D another generation longer you may as well gift it to a child.

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I have considered it, but I am not such a fan of lens bulbs protruding like this lens does, so it effectively didn't make my short list.

Regarding the 70-200 - at half the cost, and almost half the weight, I think paired with the low light capabilities of the 5D3 then f4 should do just perfectly shouldn't it? I can't see myself carrying the 70-200ISmkii around to be honest, not that I am a whimp just that I don't see the sense if the f4 is just as sharp, especially with the ISO increase I am about to have going from 550D -> 5D3.

killingbuddha wrote:

Have you considered the Tokina 16-28 2.8 lens. Many tests show this as sharper than the Canon 16-35II and is about $900.

I would agree that you will not use your old camera much after getting the 5DIII.

The 70-200 is one of the sharpest zooms that Canon makes and as long as you don't need more light, you will love that lens.
Good luck,

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kobeson wrote:

Thanks for the reply!

Yeah I kinda wondered if that might happen - am contemplating keeping the 550D if I do pick up any weddings/events down the line, but will sell it if I can I guess. Difficult decision as I don't know where this is going to take me at this stage.

You already have a ton of gear. Ordering a new, high quality camera and lenses is fine. But, you wrote that you may, or may not, go into wedding photography in the future.

It would appear that what you really need first and foremost is a PLAN.

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Regarding the 70-200 - at half the cost, and almost half the weight, I think paired with the low light capabilities of the 5D3 then f4 should do just perfectly shouldn't it? I can't see myself carrying the 70-200ISmkii around to be honest, not that I am a whimp just that I don't see the sense if the f4 is just as sharp, especially with the ISO increase I am about to have going from 550D -> 5D3.

In most cases yes, the f/4 will be fine, and the weight and size savings are very significant. In my experience the 5D3 is at least 1 stop better than the 5D2, and at least 2 stops better than the 7D.

The only times you need f/2.8 are for low light combined with action, and for maximum background blur. I have found it very useful for stage and sports.

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Lovely shot Jack!

I think the f4 will do well, considering I am going from 550D/55-250 I would imagine the shots I will be able to take indoors will be substantially better.

Cheers for the post

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kobeson wrote:

Regarding the 70-200 - at half the cost, and almost half the weight, I think paired with the low light capabilities of the 5D3 then f4 should do just perfectly shouldn't it? I can't see myself carrying the 70-200ISmkii around to be honest, not that I am a whimp just that I don't see the sense if the f4 is just as sharp, especially with the ISO increase I am about to have going from 550D -> 5D3.

In most cases yes, the f/4 will be fine, and the weight and size savings are very significant. In my experience the 5D3 is at least 1 stop better than the 5D2, and at least 2 stops better than the 7D.

The only times you need f/2.8 are for low light combined with action, and for maximum background blur. I have found it very useful for stage and sports.

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kobeson wrote:

Lovely shot Jack!

I think the f4 will do well, considering I am going from 550D/55-250 I would imagine the shots I will be able to take indoors will be substantially better.

Yes, it is all about the improvement over your current setup. The 5D3 by itself will be at least 2 stops better than your 550D, and then the lens is 1 stop faster. So you will see a huge improvement indoors, and everywhere else.

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