Am I the only one who thinks the olympus 75mm price is outrageous?

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thinwallet
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Am I the only one who thinks the olympus 75mm price is outrageous?
May 26, 2012

Can someone explain how the $900 price can be justified? I have a Canon 85mm F1.8, excellent build quality, sharp wide open. It's slightly bigger than the olympus 75mm, 3"x2.8" vs 2.5" x 2.7". It only costs $400 and has more reach!

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Yes.

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I'm seriously considering switching to MFT from Canon, but am having hard time justifying the higher cost of the mid-long ranges MFT primes.

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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

Is the Pentax 77mm limited $1050 price tag more justifiable?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/388316-REG/Pentax_27980_Telephoto_SMCP_FA_77mm_f_1_8.html .

I wouldn't switch to Canon FF gear to take advantage of the 85/1.8 lens.
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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

So don't buy the 75f1.8 if you think it is overpriced. Buy a EF to m4/3 adapter and use the EF85f1.8 on your future m4/3...I Do.
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In reply to Jeff Tokayer, May 26, 2012

When has pentax become a benchmark in the industry? Does the price tag make you eager to buy the pentax 77mm?

Let me rephrase my question. Is a 75mm MFT lens so difficult to make so that it has to cost more than twice as much as a 85mm FF lens with comparable spec? I know nothing about lens design. Would like to learn more about it.

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That's a great shot! I'm thinking of the same, but wouldn't I loose AF with the adapter?

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No, I think the 75/1.8 price tag is stupid. IMHO it's not just a little too high, but about 2.5 times too high. The solution is simple, buy any of the excellent manual focus 85/1.8 primes for a fraction of the cost, let Oly sit on their lenses.

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I am in the same boat and I am not buying this lens. In fact, I also think the focal length too long for portraiture, and too short for a tele lens.

45/1.8 is the closest replacement for your EF 85/1.8 (which I also happen to own and like).

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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

Obviously you are not an mFT faithful.

Squint your brains really hard so this will make sense.

This is a 150 f1.8, don't don't say "yes but" just say this is really a 150 f1.8, no... no...don't even think about a "yes but..." just say to yourself "I'm really buying a 150 f1.8 for just $900"

and..
and..

it is in "silver" which will make me look so cool...all the hot women will want to sleep with me and my silver shiny lens.

and lastly of course "it's so small" wait wait.. don't compare size with other 85 or 7mm lenses, compare it to a 150 f2.8 or 200 f1.8 and see how small your "150mm f1.8 is" wait wait wait... don't say "yet but..."

thinwallet wrote:

Can someone explain how the $900 price can be justified? I have a Canon 85mm F1.8, excellent build quality, sharp wide open. It's slightly bigger than the olympus 75mm, 3"x2.8" vs 2.5" x 2.7". It only costs $400 and has more reach!

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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

Am not too surprised at the price. What's been missing from ยต4/3 is pro-grade lenses and now we're finally seeing some. Expect significant expansion of this segment in the next few years.

In case it helps, check E-series SHG lens prices to see where future offerings might be priced.

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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

About 100 bucks too high. But it's a high quality, high performing lens and the first of it's kind for the format.

The honest truth is that Olympus does not want this to be a bargain basement lens. They would rather make it high quality, high performing, and high price. And that is absolutely their right to do so.

Nobody is forced to buy this lens.

Buy the Canon full frame system and a 150 lens and get back to me on how empty your pockets are.

Personally I'm getting this lens because it's awesome, small, and will be extremely cool to do photo shoots with.

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No, you're not. I think most of the lenses for the micro 4/3rds system are overpriced.

I don't even have a use for this focal length, so even it it was half as much I still wouldn't get it.

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To me - for my uses - even if I had the money I'd pass. It looks to be a great lens absolutely. But it is an odd focal length for my use. I'd rather use a good manual focus lens for the amount of shots at around this EFL that I do. So lose some quality, save lots of money. If I found it a flattering lens for portraits, or weddings or something that I made money at, then for that price it would be justified.
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thinwallet wrote:

Can someone explain how the $900 price can be justified? I have a Canon 85mm F1.8,

a quite old lens from a time when lenses have been cheaper

excellent build quality,

really? Not middle class build quality?

sharp wide open.

really? How about CA?

It's slightly bigger than the olympus 75mm, 3"x2.8" vs 2.5" x 2.7". It only costs $400 and has more reach!

Does it fit well on a m43 camera? Can it offer the same performance.

lenses cost what they cost. If this is to much for you, do not buy them.

Why is it so difficult to understand this?

And why is it so difficult that you can not compare lenses by ther f and F nukmber. Do you compare car prices based on number of wheels and seats?

The Canon lens is an old (and good, not superb) design, the Olympus is a new design. The Olympus lens has a metal construction, offers a lot more lens elements, a lot more special glass lens elements, special AF drive and so on.

MTF umbers for the Olmypus lens are given for 20lp/mm and 60lp/mm, the Canon lens's MTF numbers are at 10lp/mm and 30lp/mm, just in case if you want to compare those.

So if the Canon lens is already "excellent" and fts your camera, just usw it. Everything is fine.

But stop making silly comparisons.

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thinwallet wrote:

Can someone explain how the $900 price can be justified? I have a Canon 85mm F1.8, excellent build quality, sharp wide open. It's slightly bigger than the olympus 75mm, 3"x2.8" vs 2.5" x 2.7". It only costs $400 and has more reach!

The Canon 85mm doesn't have excellent build quality. It's mainly made of plastic.

It's also not the correct lens to compare with the Olympus 75mm. Concerning reach, speed and build quality the closest lens is the Canon 135mm/f2. And now show me where you can get this lens for $400?

I think the real issue with the price of the Olympus 75mm and Olympus 12mm is that they don't really fit into the m43 world. Typical m43 users don't want to spend too much for camera and lenses, at least not for build quality.

I'm in the same boat. I 'd be perfectly satisfied if lenses like the Olympus 12 and 75 would have the build quality of the Olympus 45mm. With the announced price of the 75mm lens i doubt i will buy it.

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In reply to thinwallet, May 26, 2012

This lenses is barely smaller than its full frame counterparts, and will not be "substantially" better IQ wise either, at least not to the degree they have priced it.

I think Olympus ignored the success of the 45mm. It wasn't/isn't popular due to it IQ alone, it is popular for its bang to buck ratio. This lens misses the boat on that one IMO. I say make it in plastic (never once had any problems with modern plastic lenses) offer it in black or silver, and with a plastic bayonet mount hood for $600, which to me is a logical step up from the 45mm.

The current price "might" be more justified if it were weather sealed and came with the hood. The no hood thing is asinine on a $900 lens.

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Cephalotus wrote:

lenses cost what they cost. If this is to much for you, do not buy them.

Why is it so difficult to understand this?

For the same reason it's difficult for some people to understand that they're over paying just to have the latest greatest gear for a sub-par system.

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In reply to Merak, May 26, 2012

Nope its a 75mm lens so compare to other 70-90mm lenses. Just because the sensor size results in a different angle of view does not mean the lens is a different focal length. This is just the way Olympus and Panasonic want us to think to justify their price points.

Do you really think a 75mm 1.8 for a smaller sensor would cost the same to build/design as a 135mm f2 Lens that has to be built for a much larger sensor?

Merak wrote:

thinwallet wrote:

Can someone explain how the $900 price can be justified? I have a Canon 85mm F1.8, excellent build quality, sharp wide open. It's slightly bigger than the olympus 75mm, 3"x2.8" vs 2.5" x 2.7". It only costs $400 and has more reach!

The Canon 85mm doesn't have excellent build quality. It's mainly made of plastic.

It's also not the correct lens to compare with the Olympus 75mm. Concerning reach, speed and build quality the closest lens is the Canon 135mm/f2. And now show me where you can get this lens for $400?

I think the real issue with the price of the Olympus 75mm and Olympus 12mm is that they don't really fit into the m43 world. Typical m43 users don't want to spend too much for camera and lenses, at least not for build quality.

I'm in the same boat. I 'd be perfectly satisfied if lenses like the Olympus 12 and 75 would have the build quality of the Olympus 45mm. With the announced price of the 75mm lens i doubt i will buy it.

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roblarosa wrote:

Cephalotus wrote:

lenses cost what they cost. If this is to much for you, do not buy them.

Why is it so difficult to understand this?

For the same reason it's difficult for some people to understand that they're over paying just to have the latest greatest gear for a sub-par system.

You do not "overpay" if the lens delivers what you want at a cost the buyer (not you, not me!) thinks is acceptable in relation to that performance.

Those that do not think so will not buy the lens. 0,01% of those will go to forums and start whining in threads about things they can or will not afford. Why waste your and our time?

Is a BMW worth the price if a Dacia can do the same?

If the Canon 85/1,8 lens is more to your liking just buy that lens. Where is the problem?

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