Why I won't buy the SD1......

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adegroot
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Why I won't buy the SD1......
May 22, 2012

...until the time Sigma fixes SPP which is way tooooo slow for the SD1 files.

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Roland D
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Re: Why I won't buy the SD1......
In reply to adegroot, May 22, 2012

Strange indeed that the camera can process the raw data and create an imbeded JPG in a few seconds while a "powerful" desktop CPU takes 5 time the time.

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I'm waiting too...
In reply to adegroot, May 22, 2012

I'm waiting for a fix for the horizontal banding bug/issue. The latest firmware might have helped. Also thinking that a DP2M might be a nice choice, rather than the SD1M, so no need to rush.

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In reply to adegroot, May 22, 2012

A year or two we visited an artist's studio (Cezanne?) and during the tour it was explained that during painting his still lifes, the fruit would dry out and mummify itself, so that the still lifes ended up looking like they were views of dried out fruit.

At least SPP is faster than that. And the results are all masterpieces.
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Re: Why I won't buy the SD1......
In reply to Tom Schum, May 22, 2012

Tom Schum wrote:

A year or two we visited an artist's studio (Cezanne?) and during the tour it was explained that during painting his still lifes, the fruit would dry out and mummify itself, so that the still lifes ended up looking like they were views of dried out fruit.

At least SPP is faster than that. And the results are all masterpieces.
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Not all of them Tom . Many great opportunities in changing light get lost waiting for the camera when she is "Busy" and refuses to shoot . This happens more frequently as your photo session progresses which seems to indicate a Temperature issue . Camera processing slows down to Cool off.

The new Firmware upgrades from Sigma have removed the LCD issues when using manual lenses but there are still unresolved Residual Color Casts issues .

One of our Pioneer members have managed to hack the SD1 V1.04 firmware Headers to make them acceptable to the Merrill camera and it appears that the old SD1 firmware does better in the Merrill camera than the Sigma update itself .

You can read about this on our forum and download the Merrill V 1.02 Binary file as well here:

http://sigmacumlaude.com/sigmacumlaude/yetanotherforum/default.aspx?g=topics&f=20

Proceed at you own risk.

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In reply to LUIS A GUEVARA, May 22, 2012

I haven't experienced any slowdown over time.

I often use the camera for studio shoots that last 2-3 full working days, taking about 500 shots a day.

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In reply to cinefeel, May 23, 2012

P.S.

I select the keepers based on the JPEGs and batch process the RAWs overnight. Simple.

I agree the software is horrible, though.

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In reply to adegroot, May 23, 2012

I am waiting for an increased buffer size and a lower resolution to sensor size than the SD1(M), because it is too demanding for my current EX lenses (most 1 to 2 gens old). A 18-20mp 1.3 crop size sensor would be awesome.

With SPP, I am waiting for better multi-core support, with graphic card acceleration, and openCL support. But that could be a long time and coming on the software side. Unfortunately I don't have time with my new job and the volunteer work I do, otherwise I have a strong inkling to make my own RAW editor for X3F files and learn what I have to make the things above possible within the RAW editor.

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In reply to adegroot, May 23, 2012

I've run it on windows laptops at location shoots and on powerful Linux workstations using WINE. It's always run better on my desktop machines.

Having said that, the SD1M gathers a lot of raw data and it takes longer to process compared to the SD15. Do I mind? heck no. I love working with all that data.

If you're on the fence solely because of SPP, you've got a great excuse to build a new desktop powerhouse.
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Obscura wrote:

If you're on the fence solely because of SPP, you've got a great excuse to build a new desktop powerhouse.

Yeah, like I did. I've spent so much money on the new PC that I can't afford the camera. But seriously, I desperately needed a new system… and I’m prepared to wait for my SD1.

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In reply to Obscura, May 23, 2012

There is a new and faster chip just available -3.9 gh - called Ivy (Bridge)..would really help with SPP for the SD1.
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Yeah, that's the problem... there is always a newer, faster chip!

The bottom line is that the existing SPP isn't even using the full potential of existing quad core processors.

rick decker wrote:

There is a new and faster chip just available -3.9 gh - called Ivy (Bridge)..would really help with SPP for the SD1.

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In reply to LUIS A GUEVARA, May 25, 2012

LUIS A GUEVARA wrote:

One of our Pioneer members have managed to hack the SD1 V1.04 firmware Headers to make them acceptable to the Merrill camera and it appears that the old SD1 firmware does better in the Merrill camera than the Sigma update itself .

You can read about this on our forum and download the Merrill V 1.02 Binary file as well here:

http://sigmacumlaude.com/sigmacumlaude/yetanotherforum/default.aspx?g=topics&f=20

Proceed at you own risk.

Hi Luis

I'm going to install this firmware to my SD1M this morning. Before I do so, do you know if the process is reversible?

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In reply to SigmaChrome, May 26, 2012

Imagine trying to edit 300 images using snail slow SPP? I don't think so. The program needs a refresh and optimized for speed.

SigmaChrome wrote:
Yeah, that's the problem... there is always a newer, faster chip!

The bottom line is that the existing SPP isn't even using the full potential of existing quad core processors.

rick decker wrote:

There is a new and faster chip just available -3.9 gh - called Ivy (Bridge)..would really help with SPP for the SD1.

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In reply to LUIS A GUEVARA, May 28, 2012

LUIS A GUEVARA wrote:

One of our Pioneer members have managed to hack the SD1 V1.04 firmware Headers to make them acceptable to the Merrill camera and it appears that the old SD1 firmware does better in the Merrill camera than the Sigma update itself .

You can read about this on our forum and download the Merrill V 1.02 Binary file as well here:

http://sigmacumlaude.com/sigmacumlaude/yetanotherforum/default.aspx?g=topics&f=20

Proceed at you own risk.

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Luis

Hello Luis

I have been using the hacked firmware on my SD1M for a few days now and it has improved many of the weird colour and exposure outcomes I was getting with the original and update firmware.

All I need to do now is to get the camera to focus properly every time and to find a lens which is sharp across the frame and I'll be good to go.

JK

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Re: Why I won't buy the SD1......
In reply to adegroot, May 29, 2012

My solution is multitasking.

When I hit the process button or the Hires button I then have time to do other things, check email, bank account, clean up hard drive on other comp, check dp forums for news etc.
Multitasking also helps to prevent boredom too.

Takes more concentration but it won't kill ya.

Also sometimes a slower pace can help with creative ideas during image editing and help to avoid technical errors.

So not a biggie overall, but still, it's a mystery why it's so slow.
I anticipate they will improve on the speed by about 35% soon.

I have adopted cinefeel idea to shoot raw and jpegs and use the jpegs to find the keepers and just process those. It's the best time saving idea so far. Or just shoot Jpegs - sssshhhh. You didn't hear it from me.

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