Is there a way to get CS3 to run on a current Mac-mini (middle model) in 10.7?

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TheEye
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Is there a way to get CS3 to run on a current Mac-mini (middle model) in 10.7?
May 22, 2012

From what I've read, the problem isn't 10.7, it's the hardware in the current Mac-mini that prevents CS3 (designed for PPC architecture) from running. Maybe the lack of Rosetta is the issue?

Is there a workaround? Could I install OS 10.4 on an external hard drive and boot CS3 from there?

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CS3 works without problems in new Macs (I'm running it in an iMac 27 2011)
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Gabriel Chalmeta wrote:

CS3 works without problems in new Macs (I'm running it in an iMac 27 2011)
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TheEye wrote:

From what I've read, the problem isn't 10.7, it's the hardware in the current Mac-mini that prevents CS3 (designed for PPC architecture) from running. Maybe the lack of Rosetta is the issue?

According to this, CS3 shipped as a Universal Binary. If a current Mac Mini can run CS3, it would use the Intel code and ignore the PowerPC code.

http://arstechnica.com/features/2007/04/photoshop-cs3/

Is there a workaround? Could I install OS 10.4 on an external hard drive and boot CS3 from there?

As a rule, you cannot install a version of Mac OS X lower than the one that came with the hardware. Sometimes there might be exceptions to this (e.g., if they originally shipped a particular model with Snow Leopard, then halfway through the hardware refresh cycle, switched to shipping it with Lion), but you can't count on them.

I believe that Server versions of Mac OS X will let themselves be installed inside virtual machines (as long as those virtual machines are running on Mac hardware), so you possibly could run Snow Leopard Server inside Parallels or VMWare Fusion, on Lion. It sounds like you won't need to engage in such an elaborate workaround.

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Tom_N wrote:

According to this, CS3 shipped as a Universal Binary. If a current Mac Mini can run CS3, it would use the Intel code and ignore the PowerPC code.

http://arstechnica.com/features/2007/04/photoshop-cs3/

If I go ahead and install CS3 to see if it works, is there a risk of causing any damage other than that it may not work?

Thanks for letting me know that an older OS can usually not be installed on a newer computer.

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You're thinking of CS2. I'm running CS3 on my 2007 MBP and 2008 Mac Pro, both of which have Intel processors.

TheEye wrote:

From what I've read, the problem isn't 10.7, it's the hardware in the current Mac-mini that prevents CS3 (designed for PPC architecture) from running. Maybe the lack of Rosetta is the issue?

Is there a workaround? Could I install OS 10.4 on an external hard drive and boot CS3 from there?

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TheEye wrote:

Tom_N wrote:

According to this, CS3 shipped as a Universal Binary. If a current Mac Mini can run CS3, it would use the Intel code and ignore the PowerPC code.

http://arstechnica.com/features/2007/04/photoshop-cs3/

If I go ahead and install CS3 to see if it works, is there a risk of causing any damage other than that it may not work?

There is alway a risk whenever you operate a computer. Thats why you should always have a current backup. Installing CS3 is no greater risk than most other operations.

But with the level of paranoia you are demonstrating with your questions, I take it that you already have several backups

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Majikthize wrote:

You're thinking of CS2. I'm running CS3 on my 2007 MBP and 2008 Mac Pro, both of which have Intel processors.

Do you have Rosetta installed?

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Peter Rongsted wrote:

TheEye wrote:

Tom_N wrote:

According to this, CS3 shipped as a Universal Binary. If a current Mac Mini can run CS3, it would use the Intel code and ignore the PowerPC code.

http://arstechnica.com/features/2007/04/photoshop-cs3/

If I go ahead and install CS3 to see if it works, is there a risk of causing any damage other than that it may not work?

There is alway a risk whenever you operate a computer. Thats why you should always have a current backup. Installing CS3 is no greater risk than most other operations.

But with the level of paranoia you are demonstrating with your questions, I take it that you already have several backups

Peter

I have three backups.

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Peter Rongsted wrote:

Majikthize wrote:

You're thinking of CS2. I'm running CS3 on my 2007 MBP and 2008 Mac Pro, both of which have Intel processors.

Do you have Rosetta installed?

Peter

Why would he need Rosetta? I ran CS3 just fine on my 2006 iMac without Rosetta. The current Macs don't come with Rosetta any longer.

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the only possible issue is if the CS3 installer is a PPC app. But the core CS3 works fine on 10.6 or 10.7 (I have it (CS3) running on both)

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TheEye wrote:

Peter Rongsted wrote:

Majikthize wrote:

You're thinking of CS2. I'm running CS3 on my 2007 MBP and 2008 Mac Pro, both of which have Intel processors.

Do you have Rosetta installed?

Peter

Why would he need Rosetta? I ran CS3 just fine on my 2006 iMac without Rosetta. The current Macs don't come with Rosetta any longer.

I wasn't clear. I meant that the fact he can run CS3 on his Intel Mac does not prove anything. If he has Rosetta installed all Power PC programs will run. And it would not help the OP as he would get OS X Lion with a new Mac Mini and no Rosetta.

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Peter Rongsted wrote:

TheEye wrote:

Peter Rongsted wrote:

Majikthize wrote:

You're thinking of CS2. I'm running CS3 on my 2007 MBP and 2008 Mac Pro, both of which have Intel processors.

Do you have Rosetta installed?

Peter

Why would he need Rosetta? I ran CS3 just fine on my 2006 iMac without Rosetta. The current Macs don't come with Rosetta any longer.

I wasn't clear. I meant that the fact he can run CS3 on his Intel Mac does not prove anything. If he has Rosetta installed all Power PC programs will run. And it would not help the OP as he would get OS X Lion with a new Mac Mini and no Rosetta.

Peter

However, CS3 is a Universal Binary, so it doesn't need Rosetta to begin with, right?

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Howard Moftich wrote:

the only possible issue is if the CS3 installer is a PPC app. But the core CS3 works fine on 10.6 or 10.7 (I have it (CS3) running on both)

What CS3 installer did you use on 10.7?

How can I find out if the installer that comes with my CS3 is a PPC application? If so, is there are a solution?

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Right. I don't have PS CS3 installed, but I do have bridge CS3 and it works just fine in lion. The big problem with CS3 and PSE 6 (which is based on it) comes if you had it installed in 10.6 and set to open in rosetta and then upgrade to lion. In that case lion says it can't run ppc applications and you have some work to do. But otherwise it's just fine. No problems with a fresh install in lion.

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In my case, CS3 was already installed on the machine in question when the machine had 10.5 or 10.6 loaded. I then installed 10.7 over 10.6

There is only 1 installer

TheEye wrote:

Howard Moftich wrote:

the only possible issue is if the CS3 installer is a PPC app. But the core CS3 works fine on 10.6 or 10.7 (I have it (CS3) running on both)

What CS3 installer did you use on 10.7?

How can I find out if the installer that comes with my CS3 is a PPC application? If so, is there are a solution?

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TheEye wrote:

How can I find out if the installer that comes with my CS3 is a PPC application? If so, is there are a solution?

Do a "Get Info" on the application. In the "General:" section, the first line should say "Kind: Application (XXXXXX)" where XXXXXX is a string like "Classic", "PowerPC", "Intel", or "Universal". You want either "Intel" (Intel-only) or "Universal" (Intel + PPC).

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Howard Moftich wrote:

In my case, CS3 was already installed on the machine in question when the machine had 10.5 or 10.6 loaded. I then installed 10.7 over 10.6

So it's working because you didn't have t install using 10.7. Unfortunately that doesn't help me since I'm stuck with 10.7.

There is only 1 installer

TheEye wrote:

Howard Moftich wrote:

the only possible issue is if the CS3 installer is a PPC app. But the core CS3 works fine on 10.6 or 10.7 (I have it (CS3) running on both)

What CS3 installer did you use on 10.7?

How can I find out if the installer that comes with my CS3 is a PPC application? If so, is there are a solution?

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Conchita wrote:

Right. I don't have PS CS3 installed, but I do have bridge CS3 and it works just fine in lion. The big problem with CS3 and PSE 6 (which is based on it) comes if you had it installed in 10.6 and set to open in rosetta and then upgrade to lion.

I find this confusing. I has CS3 on my 2006 iMac. It did not run under Rosetta.

In that case lion says it can't run ppc applications and you have some work to do. But otherwise it's just fine. No problems with a fresh install in lion.

So how do you install it in Lion? Since the installer is PPC only, and since Lion doesn't have Rosetta, how does it work?

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Tom_N wrote:

TheEye wrote:

How can I find out if the installer that comes with my CS3 is a PPC application? If so, is there are a solution?

Do a "Get Info" on the application. In the "General:" section, the first line should say "Kind: Application (XXXXXX)" where XXXXXX is a string like "Classic", "PowerPC", "Intel", or "Universal". You want either "Intel" (Intel-only) or "Universal" (Intel + PPC).

The Get Info search on CS3 will show also the installer architecture? I can't try it right now, because I don't have CS3 on the Mac-mini yet.

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