This 28/1.8G is a d#&n sharp lens on D800!

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This 28/1.8G is a d#&n sharp lens on D800!
May 21, 2012
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Is this lens finally arriving at dealers yet?
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this looks bad and definitely not on par with a 35G or 24G.

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In reply to ukat123, May 22, 2012

I wouldn't judge the lens yet based off some of those pictures. White balance looks off on some, aperture choice doesn't seem good on others and a variety of other factors. I won't be judging the 28f1.8G off of these pictures. Time will tell.

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It's not meant to be on par with the 24 and 35 f1,4G in the first place.

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ukat123 wrote:

this looks bad and definitely not on par with a 35G or 24G.

These are with the 35/1.4G, from the same person with the same D800 and at the same location.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157625480174719/

To eliminate errors of focusing, concentrate on the houses around the mid of the town, check from left edge to the right one. At best apertures like f5.6 or f8.0 check the resolution differences.

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BobYIL wrote:

For more samples with the same combo:

Unsurprisingly, it's a winner.

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This is @f8.. check the bottom corners too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/7235369480/sizes/o/in/set-72157629798639922/

For more samples with the same combo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157629798639922/with/7235369480/

Do you work for Canon ?

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Thanks. This confirms my impressions. Corners are a bit soft on the 28G, even at f8. There is more definition in the 35G, and the look is more natural However, for the price, the 28G is still a good buy. If they produce a new 20G with that quality, I'll buy it.

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BobYIL wrote:

This is @f8.. check the bottom corners too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/7235369480/sizes/o/in/set-72157629798639922/

For more samples with the same combo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157629798639922/with/7235369480/

Do you work for Canon ?

Does this look to you like a Canon?

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BobYIL wrote:

ukat123 wrote:

this looks bad and definitely not on par with a 35G or 24G.

These are with the 35/1.4G, from the same person with the same D800 and at the same location.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157625480174719/

To eliminate errors of focusing, concentrate on the houses around the mid of the town, check from left edge to the right one. At best apertures like f5.6 or f8.0 check the resolution differences.

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Looks to me at f/1.8 or so it compares very well. Both have some LoCA.

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ukat123 wrote:

Thanks. This confirms my impressions. Corners are a bit soft on the 28G, even at f8. There is more definition in the 35G, and the look is more natural However, for the price, the 28G is still a good buy. If they produce a new 20G with that quality, I'll buy it.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the bottom corners at f/8. Given that it's likely focused at infinity and the stuff in those corners is likely pretty near.

This copy seems to have a bit of decentering while the 35/1.4G seems to be even across the frame.
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ukat123 wrote:

Thanks. This confirms my impressions. Corners are a bit soft on the 28G, even at f8. There is more definition in the 35G, and the look is more natural However, for the price, the 28G is still a good buy. If they produce a new 20G with that quality, I'll buy it.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the bottom corners at f/8. Given that it's likely focused at infinity and the stuff in those corners is likely pretty near.

This copy seems to have a bit of decentering while the 35/1.4G seems to be even across the frame.
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That's right.. Two facts: It's sharper than the former 28/1.4 AI-S and compared to the top-prime (1.4G) series of Nikon, this low-priced 1.8G series lenses are indeed "competitive". For instance 50/1.8G vs. 50/1.4G, or 85/1.8G vs. 85/1.4G.. Independent tests are showing that the lower-cost series too are top-performers..

I am expecting some very impressive test results for the 28/1.8G, maybe not so stellar as the 35/1.4G however close to it. And IMHO, as long as the performance between f4 to f8 would be comparable to the 1.4G lenses, most of us would be satisfied.

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In reply to ukat123, May 23, 2012

Thanks for the post. I have the 35mm 1.4G arriving tomorrow & I have been searching for a post just like this one. I am also considering the 28mm f1.8 in the future, we'll see. Don't have a date on the D800 yet.

Thanks again,

Fred

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BobYIL wrote:

This is @f8.. check the bottom corners too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/7235369480/sizes/o/in/set-72157629798639922/

For more samples with the same combo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157629798639922/with/7235369480/
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To me it looks like this lens has "bands" of softness across the frame. Scrolling left-to-right across the middle of the image the edge is sharp, then there is a soft area, then it's sharp again in the center, and then there is another soft area, and then the edge is sharp.

I remember seeing something similar with the 24/1.4, which I had a very hard time getting to focus correctly at infinity. I'm guessing it is an attempt to correct for aberrations that's causing the wavy bands of sharpness.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/7235344114/sizes/o/in/set-72157629798639922/

The 35/1.4 samples on the other hand (which you posted a link to above) show the field curvature of that lens. The edges are soft towards infinity, but sharper up close.

Overall I think the 28/1.8 looks very good. Already at f/2 this lens is quite sharp. I think it will compare very favorably to the 24/1.4 and 35/1.4 - both of which have their own quirks - especially when you take the price into account.

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ffnikclif wrote:

Thanks for the post. I have the 35mm 1.4G arriving tomorrow & I have been searching for a post just like this one. I am also considering the 28mm f1.8 in the future, we'll see. Don't have a date on the D800 yet.

Thanks again,

Fred

Same here.. Lenses have arrived, waiting for the D800E..
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BobYIL wrote:

That's right.. Two facts: It's sharper than the former 28/1.4 AI-S and compared to the top-prime (1.4G) series of Nikon, this low-priced 1.8G series lenses are indeed "competitive". For instance 50/1.8G vs. 50/1.4G, or 85/1.8G vs. 85/1.4G.. Independent tests are showing that the lower-cost series too are top-performers..

I am expecting some very impressive test results for the 28/1.8G, maybe not so stellar as the 35/1.4G however close to it. And IMHO, as long as the performance between f4 to f8 would be comparable to the 1.4G lenses, most of us would be satisfied.

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When you say the "former 28/1.4 Ai-S" I suppose you mean the Nikkor 28/1.4D. It's curious that people that apparently have never shot with this lens can make "factual" statements reference its sharpness versus another lens.
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dgjean wrote:

BobYIL wrote:

That's right.. Two facts: It's sharper than the former 28/1.4 AI-S and compared to the top-prime (1.4G) series of Nikon, this low-priced 1.8G series lenses are indeed "competitive". For instance 50/1.8G vs. 50/1.4G, or 85/1.8G vs. 85/1.4G.. Independent tests are showing that the lower-cost series too are top-performers..

I am expecting some very impressive test results for the 28/1.8G, maybe not so stellar as the 35/1.4G however close to it. And IMHO, as long as the performance between f4 to f8 would be comparable to the 1.4G lenses, most of us would be satisfied.

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When you say the "former 28/1.4 Ai-S" I suppose you mean the Nikkor 28/1.4D. It's curious that people that apparently have never shot with this lens can make "factual" statements reference its sharpness versus another lens.
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Thank you for the correct designation. FYI, I have been using Nikons since 1964 however I always prefer to refer to some reliable testing sites for insightful evaluation of lenses, especially while stating something in such forums. For the lens in concern you may want take a look at the test results as well as their final verdict:

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/723-nikkorafd2814ff

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I wouldn't mind seeing a facial close up though!

I have one on pre-order (so far all my D800E lenses miss the UK nikon cash back )

I know its risky but with Nano and 2 aspherical elements I figured Nikon couldn't have mucked it up:

The real winner here is the 330g. Its a real travellers lens.

The 35mm f1.4G is twice the weight, a longer focal length and doesn't get stellar reviews

For me its either the 24mm f1.4G or this. Still a difficult call but the 330g is winning it at the moment

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BobYIL wrote:

Does this look to you like a Canon?

1. Wasn't this a thread about 28/1.8?

2. BTW, the 85/1.8 Canon EF is a very good lens, with outstanding performance from f/2.8 onwards

3. your pictures convinced me to not buy the 28/1.8G since my lenses are far better than this new plasticky toy. I am grateful to you

Take care,

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