Clip to hold flowers still in the wind?

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clengman
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Clip to hold flowers still in the wind?
May 20, 2012

I've read a number of times about using some kind of flexible armature with a clip to attach to a tripod keep a subject in position when it's breezy. I've been looking around for something suitable and I'm having a hard time locating anything. Anybody aware of brands, or product names to search for? Any ideas for attaching the armature to the tripod? Thanks!

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In reply to clengman, May 20, 2012

The main commercial product I know of is the Wimberley Plamp.
http://www.tripodhead.com/products/plamp-main.cfm

I've never used this and what I've used is a Manfrotto Super clamp, a Manfrotto flexible arm and a Novoflex plant clip. This is much heavier, but it can also be used to support heavier items.

The one thing I have found you need to look out for is if you clip the support to the camera tripod. The shock of the shutter and most probably the mirror flip travels through the tripod, down the support and can make the plant it is attached to slightly vibrate or shake.. I was quite surprised when I found this. So ideally such a clip or support should be used on a separate tripod.

In addition to the above I have made some of my own clips and have used foam covered florest's wire. This type of clamping only works in a light breeze and in a stronger breeze parts of the plant will vibrate in the breeze no matter how firmly you clamp the stem. I use a white umbrella I rest on its side as a windbreak.

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I occasionally use the Wimberley Plamp and it does help, but when the wind is blowing it will only helps maintain position, you still need a fast shutter to avoid motion blur.

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In reply to clengman, May 20, 2012

clengman wrote:

I've read a number of times about using some kind of flexible armature with a clip to attach to a tripod keep a subject in position when it's breezy. I've been looking around for something suitable and I'm having a hard time locating anything. Anybody aware of brands, or product names to search for? Any ideas for attaching the armature to the tripod? Thanks!

To be honest, when I'm outside shooting florals...it must be with optimal conditions...which means a bright (but cloudy) day and absolutely no wind at all. IF the environment isn't perfect, then I simply don't even think of taking any images.

Remember, the outdoor environment dictates to us when we can (and cannot) shoot images....not the other way around

In general I find that early mornings are the best time - overall.
Here's my short blog on the subject.

http://kvincentphotography.ca/blog/2010/11/when-the-wind-blows

IF I find a stunning floral and the outdoor conditions are not condusive...I shoot it in the studio instead.

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In reply to KEVZPHOTOS, May 21, 2012

A friend gave me one of his DIY Plamp. Alll you need are some gardening wires (for bonsai), glue gun, etc.

http://orionmystery.blogspot.com/2011/03/plamp.html

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In reply to clengman, May 21, 2012

Lots of fine ideas above, and I have a few of the clamps, however when the wind is blowing and you want to shoot flowers, look at a portable light tent. You will also get a great light diffuser.......

like this..... http://www.adorama.com/SVLB20.html
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rightwinger wrote:

Lots of fine ideas above, and I have a few of the clamps, however when the wind is blowing and you want to shoot flowers, look at a portable light tent. You will also get a great light diffuser.......

I use light tents (large) and small on a regular basis.

However, when shooting outdoors they often ruin the "being outdoors" effect.

Often the tents don't fit well over the flowers (esepcially IF they are tall, or in large clumped shrub format, etc).....

Also, they create a somewhat dull-lighting effect....and priduce an un-natural look.

(remember, there's absolutely no need to diffuse - IF one shoots on a bright but 100% cloudy day)

and thirdly, using a tent will mean...that one cannot get a true outdoor "background' look or bokeh.

The bottom-line is....it's just so much better and less complicated to ONLY shoot flowers outdoors when "optimal" conditions prevail.

Just relax, and let nature dictate to you - when you can shoot.
It's as simple as that

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In reply to KEVZPHOTOS, May 27, 2012

The cheapest and semi easiest is a piece of solid copper wire and either an alligator [ long jaws ] or crocodile clip [ short jaws ] the # 10 or #8 wire is sold at a hard ware store for grounding wire .
OR , just pipe cleaners .

I have got to the point where I just up the speed to around 1/1000 and ISO to 800 - then burst shots good luck .

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In reply to clengman, Apr 26, 2013

I've been watching a cable show called "Wild Photo Adventures." On it Kevin Adams showed how he uses a wooden stake in the ground (brings a hammer to pound it in) and then uses a pipe cleaner to gently tie the flower stem. Haven't used this yet, but obviously works well outdoors. Hope this helps.

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In reply to clengman, Apr 26, 2013

Get a couple of binder clamps

and stop by a bulding site for some heavy guage wiring scraps.  It's not hard to get them two to three feet long.

Alternatively, spend a lot of money on something like the Nikon SW-C1

Actually, just a couple of lengths of the wire should be sufficient.  You can wrap one end around the stem and the other to something handy.  It doesn't have to be the tripod.

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In reply to bgD300, Apr 30, 2013

Do a google search on "DIY plamp" and you'll get a number of ideas.  If you're near a Lowes, you can get a couple of KWIKTWISTs.  These are about 30" long and can be used like bread wrapper ties for holding things in place, etc.  Plus, the Kwicktwists screw together for even longer reach.  You can use them alone, or also pick up some small spring clamps at Harbor Freight or elsewhere for a couple of bucks and attach them to the ends of the Kwiktwists with cable ties.  For about $10 or so you can make a couple of really functional DIY plamps.

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In reply to clengman, May 1, 2013

Here is what I use to hold flowers in the wind. It will also hold a macro flashlight, diffuser or background.

http://www.lessaucier.com/store/store.html

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