For every three DSLRs one Compact System Camera is sold - how long till this reverts

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expressocoffee
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For every three DSLRs one Compact System Camera is sold - how long till this reverts
May 19, 2012

In terms of worldwide market share DSLR cameras are still on the lead when compared to Compact System Cameras representing now a 3 to 1 ration (3 DSLR cameras sold for each Compact System Camera) as discussed here http://www.cscrumors.com/2012/05/19/compact-system-cameras-and-dslr-cameras-in-2011-david-vs-goliath/ .

How long you think will take till this trend reverses (expected to help once Canon releases its compact system camera lineup and Nikon invests in another system) and Compact System Cameras take the lead?

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In reply to expressocoffee, May 19, 2012

Sometime in the morning, I think.

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Re: 189 days
In reply to expressocoffee, May 19, 2012

In the afternoon.

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You're clearly a stooge of the DSLR industry. (;)

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In the afternoon.

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Mirror-less is already a SUCCESS....with or without beating dSLR
In reply to expressocoffee, May 20, 2012

Honest, I think this is a stupid question. I say this NOT because I'm a m4/3 fanboys, but because I'm a Canon Fanboys who just bought a m4/3 for traveling.

Poll like this are stupid because it make a 2 major false assumption:

  • (1) Mirrorless must beat dlsr to succeed in the marketplace when in fact, almost everyone who bought a DSLR will also buy a smaller mirror-less for traveling. They co-exist more than they compete, because each platform has its unique advantage: dslr for fast sports photography, mirror-less for lightweight travels

  • (2) Mirrorless must beat dslr in percentage, or died and fade away Stupid post like this annoying me to no end. So what IF mirror-less never exceed beyond 33% (1/3) of the market placed. No One is going to abandon their Mirror-less in panic because it couldn't beat dslr in percentage poll. Like it or not, mirror-less is staying like a nasty wart that won't go away. Neither is DSLR, success of failure of one doesn't mean success or failure of others

Also consider this: most people here in m4/3 forum has/had several DSLR. The ardent m4/3 supporters here tend to also own/had own a big heavy Full Frame DLSR. In another words, DSLR sales = Mirrorless Sales down the road: the more dslr get sold, the more mirror-less get sold ( down the road ) as well.

  • Wall Street Financials expect Point/Shoot -> Mirror-less transition

  • Reality point to Point/Shoot -> DSLR -> Mirror-less transition

When people upgrade from point/shoot they inevitably jump/or push into Canon / Nikon DSLR. They're happy for a while, bought several lens, flash, tripod. Then they Bitch & Moan about their WEIGHT and BULK. Finally, they break own and buy their first mirror-less camera.

In another words, owning a bulky DSLR = precursor to owing a mirror-less . The more bulky dslr get sold, the more mirror-less get sold as well. That is why in Japan, the mirror-less capture 50% of marketplace, but stay there. You need bulky dslr to feed the appetite for mirrorless.

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In reply to expressocoffee, May 20, 2012

In 4 years it will be 1:1
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I'm glad I skipped the bulky DSLR stage and when straight to mirrorless.
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Re: Mirror-less is already a SUCCESS....with or without beating dSLR
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MAubrey wrote:

I'm glad I skipped the bulky DSLR stage and when straight to mirrorless.
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Me too. On the other hand, I had a film SLR with a number of lenses including a 450 mm, so maybe not completely

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007peter wrote:

Honest, I think this is a stupid question. I say this NOT because I'm a m4/3 fanboys, but because I'm a Canon Fanboys who just bought a m4/3 for traveling.

Poll like this are stupid because it make a 2 major false assumption:

  • (1) Mirrorless must beat dlsr to succeed in the marketplace when in fact, almost everyone who bought a DSLR will also buy a smaller mirror-less for traveling. They co-exist more than they compete, because each platform has its unique advantage: dslr for fast sports photography, mirror-less for lightweight travels

  • (2) Mirrorless must beat dslr in percentage, or died and fade away Stupid post like this annoying me to no end. So what IF mirror-less never exceed beyond 33% (1/3) of the market placed. No One is going to abandon their Mirror-less in panic because it couldn't beat dslr in percentage poll. Like it or not, mirror-less is staying like a nasty wart that won't go away. Neither is DSLR, success of failure of one doesn't mean success or failure of others

Also consider this: most people here in m4/3 forum has/had several DSLR. The ardent m4/3 supporters here tend to also own/had own a big heavy Full Frame DLSR. In another words, DSLR sales = Mirrorless Sales down the road: the more dslr get sold, the more mirror-less get sold ( down the road ) as well.

  • Wall Street Financials expect Point/Shoot -> Mirror-less transition

  • Reality point to Point/Shoot -> DSLR -> Mirror-less transition

When people upgrade from point/shoot they inevitably jump/or push into Canon / Nikon DSLR. They're happy for a while, bought several lens, flash, tripod. Then they Bitch & Moan about their WEIGHT and BULK. Finally, they break own and buy their first mirror-less camera.

In another words, owning a bulky DSLR = precursor to owing a mirror-less . The more bulky dslr get sold, the more mirror-less get sold as well. That is why in Japan, the mirror-less capture 50% of marketplace, but stay there. You need bulky dslr to feed the appetite for mirrorless.

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MAubrey wrote:

I'm glad I skipped the bulky DSLR stage and when straight to mirrorless.
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Yeah, you saved time and money

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Makinations wrote:

Sometime in the morning, I think.

Well done. First time I've actually laughed form some comment here.

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Aleo Veuliah wrote:

MAubrey wrote:

I'm glad I skipped the bulky DSLR stage and when straight to mirrorless.

Yeah, you saved time and money

He could have done even better by directly skipping to cellphones because thats where things are heading.

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I proudly haven't had a cellphone since 2008.

I use VOIP at home with no need for having people contacting me wherever I go.
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Why is that a point of pride?

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I proudly haven't had a cellphone since 2008.

You don't have to talk on cellphone to take pictures. You can still sip this compact camera system and buy a cellphone and be even more prouder.

Look at this way after 5 years you can boast here that how you were smarty pants to skip whole dslrs and mirrorless to arrive at cellphones before everyone else.

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I don't recall when it was the other way around.

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In reply to Makinations, May 20, 2012

It really isn't. It's just a result of being a poor grad student.

Beyond that, it simply seemed apt to respond to zxaar's nonsense with more nonsense.
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In reply to expressocoffee, May 20, 2012

How long you think will take till this trend reverses (expected to help once Canon releases its compact system camera lineup and Nikon invests in another system) and Compact System Cameras take the lead?

The percent increase was much larger for CSC sales (60%) than it was for DLSRs (18%). Thus, your question makes no sense.

The increase in DSLRs is somewhat surprising, but IMO a good thing because it indicates that more people are becoming interested in moving up from a P&S (or iPhone). As mirroless cameras continue to get better, they will eventually become the dominant ILC format.

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Actually, it's a point of jealousy for me, well done. A cellphone is just a bloody remote control for wives and workmates...

Makinations wrote:
Why is that a point of pride?

MAubrey wrote:

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Fair enough. Was just wondering.

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It really isn't. It's just a result of being a poor grad student.

Beyond that, it simply seemed apt to respond to zxaar's nonsense with more nonsense.
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