First takes with Sony 55-210

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ChefAlex
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First takes with Sony 55-210
May 17, 2012

I give many props to Danny who takes a lot of wildlife and bird photography. It is no easy task... But I decided to give it a shot today at the park and see what happens. I know these are nowhere near to par with what some of you on this forum can produce, but lets not forget that I am a novice. I think I might just stick to food photography. I am dying to try out HDR photography too but I think its a bit out of my league right now. If only I had a sensei lol

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In reply to ChefAlex, May 17, 2012

Well they look good to my eye and I'm a novice too awaiting delivery.

Is photo 5 a little less sharp than the others due to noise at the higher ISO or is it the fact that it is at maximum zoom and hand held?

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In reply to Venture Montana, May 17, 2012

That last one looks OOF then sharpened to me, and yeah probably some blur as well.

Venture Montana wrote:

Well they look good to my eye and I'm a novice too awaiting delivery.

Is photo 5 a little less sharp than the others due to noise at the higher ISO or is it the fact that it is at maximum zoom and hand held?

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In reply to ChefAlex, May 17, 2012

This is exactly why its so great in here for us nature nutters. To see subjects well taken that others don't have. I would love to have a crack at that last bird there Alex. Those colours and details are a stunner.

The other ducks we don't seem to have here either, well the first Mallard is it, we do. We have a gorgeous Paradise duck here, the colours and markings are gorgeous in the Paradise.

Just keep them coming when you can, its always great to see and very nicely done. Some great sharp feathering details in there and the colours are great. I'll actually get that 55-210 when I can find it here. So nice to see thanks. Hard to find though !!

All the best Alex

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In reply to nzmacro, May 17, 2012

Thanks. How do you capture these birds in flight? It was really hard keeping my eye on them especially when zoomed in.

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In reply to ChefAlex, May 17, 2012

A fine start - no worries. Wildlife and bird shooting takes a few steps - once you get the lens, and find the subjects, then you start capturing them in the best light you can and getting the sharpest details you can...once you start nailing that, then you start working on catching the best poses, angles, framing, etc. I think you're well into the first few steps already as a first-timer to it, so congrats!

The lens really can perform when everything comes together.

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In reply to ChefAlex, May 18, 2012

ChefAlex wrote:

Thanks. How do you capture these birds in flight? It was really hard keeping my eye on them especially when zoomed in.

Aww sorry Alex, different time zones

NEX is the way to go for BIF's with legacy lenses, in fact IMO its the only way to go and that comes down to focus peaking. I can easily take BIF's compared to the m4/3 camera with the NEX. I would never have believed it was that good.

However, this is about AF and the 55-210. Justin is the one to ask there for this. I see he has commented below in the thread. He really gets some amazing shots and in flight from the 55-210.

So the problem here Alex, is that I don't use AF at all. Just a me thing and its about the feel and challenge.

So for legacy lenses I set the focus peaking to yellow and I find it pretty accurate for BIF's. I use shutter priority and shutter speed is always above 1/1600th, always and the ISO I lock on 200. For a lot of the shots of the Sparrows for example, those are pre focused on a branch and I just wait for them to come into land or take off.

Sparrows, Swallows, Starlings, etc are small and fly at high speeds Alex, those I honestly wouldn't even attempt to track, not even with PDAF using Canon and Nikon gear. I doubt anyone does..

The larger birds are so easy in comparison. So I would suggest you (might be wrong here) set your ISO to 400, set the shutter speed to at least 1/1200th in shutter priority, switch off AF (maybe), use peaking and remember to be patient. If a bird is on the ground or water, eventually it will take off. The AF I'm just not sure of with that lens Alex.

All the best Alex, long winded I guess, but its not exactly an easy answer. Justin is superb with AF lenses and not just NEX.

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nzmacro wrote:

ChefAlex wrote:

Thanks. How do you capture these birds in flight? It was really hard keeping my eye on them especially when zoomed in.

Aww sorry Alex, different time zones

NEX is the way to go for BIF's with legacy lenses, in fact IMO its the only way to go and that comes down to focus peaking. I can easily take BIF's compared to the m4/3 camera with the NEX. I would never have believed it was that good.

However, this is about AF and the 55-210. Justin is the one to ask there for this. I see he has commented below in the thread. He really gets some amazing shots and in flight from the 55-210.

So the problem here Alex, is that I don't use AF at all. Just a me thing and its about the feel and challenge.

So for legacy lenses I set the focus peaking to yellow and I find it pretty accurate for BIF's. I use shutter priority and shutter speed is always above 1/1600th, always and the ISO I lock on 200. For a lot of the shots of the Sparrows for example, those are pre focused on a branch and I just wait for them to come into land or take off.

Sparrows, Swallows, Starlings, etc are small and fly at high speeds Alex, those I honestly wouldn't even attempt to track, not even with PDAF using Canon and Nikon gear. I doubt anyone does..

The larger birds are so easy in comparison. So I would suggest you (might be wrong here) set your ISO to 400, set the shutter speed to at least 1/1200th in shutter priority, switch off AF (maybe), use peaking and remember to be patient. If a bird is on the ground or water, eventually it will take off. The AF I'm just not sure of with that lens Alex.

All the best Alex, long winded I guess, but its not exactly an easy answer. Justin is superb with AF lenses and not just NEX.

Danny.

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Thanks for the response Danny. Long winded or not, it was very informative. I was looking in buying a legacy lense too, just don't know which one. I know I need a nice macro and I also want a nice zoom lens. As for the birds, just have to be patient I guess huh?

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In reply to ChefAlex, May 18, 2012

Here's one I got yesterday with the 55-210. I know, seagulls are easy because you can get close...

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