I think we may see Panny's answer to the OM-D soon

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Louis_Dobson
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I think we may see Panny's answer to the OM-D soon
May 14, 2012

and I don't think it will be the GH3.

Wonder if it will share a sensor with the OM-D?

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Re: I think we may see Panny's answer to the OM-D soon
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??? Why not GH3 ???
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I'm making the same bet
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

I could see Panny splitting the line so that GH is video, the G5 moves up to serious photographer level, the GX is the rangefinder version of the G, and the GF-variants are the consumer models. The market seems to have these segments, so the offerings ought to match.

2012 is turning out to be the year of M43.

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I'm not sure it will be an 'answer'...
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

Whatever Panasonic bring forward as their 'serious enthusiast' camera must surely have been in the works long before the E-M5 was announced. I don't think it will be an 'answer to the E-M5, it will stand on its own merits.

I hope it's good! By the time it's available to buy, Olympus may have the E-P4 to market and who knows, maybe even the higher spec O-MD we're told is coming...

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Re: I'm making the same bet
In reply to SLOtographer, May 14, 2012

No matter what they put inside it, once it doesn't have IBIS, it just won't make no sense when compared to Oly body.

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Re: I'm making the same bet
In reply to Pablo 2, May 14, 2012

I'm OK with OIS.

But I like my OM-D. I find it appealing in a way that my GH2 is not, and I shan't be changing again.

Pablo 2 wrote:

No matter what they put inside it, once it doesn't have IBIS, it just won't make no sense when compared to Oly body.

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Next Panasonic will have Oly's OMD Sensor!
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

Hahahaha

Just as ridiculous as certain panny heads here who keep flogging the "Panasonic sensor in OMD" rumors.

For those lacking a sense of irony, it's similar to brassy, except grey instead of yellow.

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Re: Next Panasonic will have Oly's OMD Sensor!
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Nobody knows where the sensor is from, but my best bet remains it is a Panasonic.

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Hahahaha

Just as ridiculous as certain panny heads here who keep flogging the "Panasonic sensor in OMD" rumors.

For those lacking a sense of irony, it's similar to brassy, except grey instead of yellow.

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Re: I'm making the same bet
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Pablo 2 wrote:

No matter what they put inside it, once it doesn't have IBIS, it just won't make no sense when compared to Oly body.

exactly

unless Panasonic answers to this, they will fall behind. Which is good. I want competition to force hardheaded managers into a corner and keep on squeezing them until they yield or get squashed.

OIS is not the answer. It's not available in all lenses and it makes the lenses bulkier.

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Re: Next Panasonic will have Oly's OMD Sensor!
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

Sure, Louis, that is a good bet, but the fact remains - its all conjecture at this time.

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In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

I just want to see the progress continue. The 4/3rds sensor is finally giving the performance we need.

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Re: Next Panasonic will have Oly's OMD Sensor!
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

Sold my GH2, ordered the E-M5.

Then, after shooting a day with my G2, I cancelled the E-M5. It was being "processed for shipment" and the customer rep tempted me with an offer of two day shipping at no charge. I passed.

I can see why some prefer Olympus and some prefer Panasonic. Maybe we just like to dance with "who brung us". Personally, I like an LCD that folds away completely and as many direct controls as I can get. So, I will wait for the GH2, or whatever Louis is describing, but won't wait forever. My main wish is for better burst and I feel certain the new Pany will have that.

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In reply to highwave, May 14, 2012

highwave wrote:

OIS is not the answer. It's not available in all lenses and it makes the lenses bulkier.

Not available in all lenses: true.

Makes lenses bulkier: hard to argue when the best OIS that I've seen yet is in the smallest micro 4/3 zoom, the (almost pancake) 14-42 x. Its OIS is notably more effective than that of the Panny 14-45mm in my experience. And it's smaller than any of the Oly kit zooms that lack OIS.

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That's what Panasonic needs, and that's what I think they'll deliver. It would not be enough to just match the OM-D sensor. With Canon about to enter the mirrorless market, the competition is going to heat up. In the meanwhile, I'm happy with the GX1.

These are exciting times in the m4/3 world!

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Re: I think we may see Panny's answer to the OM-D soon
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Louis_Dobson wrote:

and I don't think it will be the GH3.

Wonder if it will share a sensor with the OM-D?

I think the current lineup is not going to have a divide like this. I will bet that the G5 will have the OM-D sensor (and it also looks like they used the same new sensor technologies to extract better performance from the old 12MP sensor as revised in the GF5 they just announced...). However, I still think their flagship will be the GH3, and that will have a new multi-aspect sensor that has many of the technological advances of the OMD sensor also incorporated.

The question I have, is will they beef up the stills photography perfomance of the GH3 to match the stellar video? I am betting they are going to try.

If they divide up the stills and video cameras, I would bet they would either do it in the next generation after the GH3, and at that point announce a high end primarily stills camera with basic video capabilites but with IBIS. I just don't happen to think that that is in the works this year.

You have to think that Panasonic is seeing that the market for upscale stills cameras is significant, and they should tap into that market...however I think that is a realization that has come this year, and we won't see the results from it until next year at the very earliest......For now, I expect the GH3 to be a higher quality update of the GH2.

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In reply to Robert Deutsch, May 14, 2012

Robert Deutsch wrote:

That's what Panasonic needs, and that's what I think they'll deliver. It would not be enough to just match the OM-D sensor. With Canon about to enter the mirrorless market, the competition is going to heat up. In the meanwhile, I'm happy with the GX1.

These are exciting times in the m4/3 world!

Still photography is just an acquired taste. They might be much more worried for their failure in TV screens.

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Re: I think we may see Panny's answer to the OM-D soon
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What's the basis for this belief? Gut instinct or anything more concrete?

Louis_Dobson wrote:

and I don't think it will be the GH3.

Wonder if it will share a sensor with the OM-D?

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Re: I'm making the same bet
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Pablo 2 wrote:

No matter what they put inside it, once it doesn't have IBIS, it just won't make no sense when compared to Oly body.

That means you should call Nikon or Canon and telling them that it is not acceptable not to have IBIS for the 5DMKIII and the D800 in today's market??!!

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In reply to highwave, May 14, 2012

Although in general I'd prefer IBIS, it doesn't seem essential or inevitable. Nikon and Canon have yet to introduce it in their FF and APS bodies. OIS sells their lenses to Panasonic owners, and until that's no longer the case it's hard to see them adding IBIS.

highwave wrote:

Pablo 2 wrote:

No matter what they put inside it, once it doesn't have IBIS, it just won't make no sense when compared to Oly body.

exactly

unless Panasonic answers to this, they will fall behind. Which is good. I want competition to force hardheaded managers into a corner and keep on squeezing them until they yield or get squashed.

OIS is not the answer. It's not available in all lenses and it makes the lenses bulkier.

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With the two fixed aperture bright zooms imminent...
In reply to Louis_Dobson, May 14, 2012

and remembering that also Olympus introduced a weather resistant lens just before the camera body, I think you've got a point.

However, I can imagine fixed aperture zooms are necessity for video, so my guess is a GH3 or even an update to Panasonic's AG-AF100.

How diversified are Panasonic going to bee in their MFT portfolio, to me it's not transparent, and my crystal ball doesn't tell me what directions they´re moving.

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