When was the end of Black & White?

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chopsteeks
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Re: When was the end of Black & White?
In reply to Gordon W, Jun 5, 2012

Galleries showcase b/w images of lots of great artists not named Ansel Adams...just fyi....

Have you seen the prices of well made b/w prints made from film ?

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There will always be a niche group of photographers who prefer film and those who prefer B&W, but they are a small percentage of today's photographers as evidenced by what's posted on photo sharing sites that cater to serious photographers, like Smugmug for instance. You'll find very little B&W on them.

On the other hand, if you look at major photo exhibitions of famous photographers you will see a strong representation of B&W.

Famous photographers such as whom? And are they current photographers or past photographers? Even Ansel Adams had started to shoot color along with B&W, although I personally think much of his work is highly overrated.

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Re: When was the end of Black & White?
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chopsteeks wrote:

Galleries showcase b/w images of lots of great artists not named Ansel Adams...just fyi....

Thanks for informing me of the obvious. I simply used Ansel as an example.

Have you seen the prices of well made b/w prints made from film ?

Can't say that I have. Can't say that prices of art mean anything to me either. I've see utter crap in all areas of art sell for millions of dollars to people with more money than sense.

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Re: When was the end of Black & White?
In reply to Gordon W, Jun 5, 2012

Folks often times believe that a razor sharp, great bokeh, colorful snapshot as an Art.

But in real world terms ----- those images are just great snapshots.

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chopsteeks wrote:

Galleries showcase b/w images of lots of great artists not named Ansel Adams...just fyi....

Thanks for informing me of the obvious. I simply used Ansel as an example.

Have you seen the prices of well made b/w prints made from film ?

Can't say that I have. Can't say that prices of art mean anything to me either. I've see utter crap in all areas of art sell for millions of dollars to people with more money than sense.

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Art is in the mind of the beholder. What is art to one person can be crap to another.

chopsteeks wrote:

Folks often times believe that a razor sharp, great bokeh, colorful snapshot as an Art.

But in real world terms ----- those images are just great snapshots.

Gordon W wrote:

chopsteeks wrote:

Galleries showcase b/w images of lots of great artists not named Ansel Adams...just fyi....

Thanks for informing me of the obvious. I simply used Ansel as an example.

Have you seen the prices of well made b/w prints made from film ?

Can't say that I have. Can't say that prices of art mean anything to me either. I've see utter crap in all areas of art sell for millions of dollars to people with more money than sense.

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In reply to Dan Desjardins, Jun 5, 2012

By people, do you mean the average snapshooter or hobbyists?

Back in the 1950's, it was common for local drugstores to do B&W photofinishing. Color prints were inconvenient and expensive. Color film was slow. Things started to change in the 1960's and by 1980, it was hard to get B&W in snapshot format (Instamatic).

As a hobbyist, I always shot B&W film and color slides. I rarely shot color fillm unless it was for snapshots of the family vacation, etc. When I was a professional commercial photographer, I shot all formats, but I did a lot of work in B&W for reproduction. At one point, I would go through at least one box of 500 sheet 8x10 a week. Luckily, I had an automated processor (Kodak Royalprint).

I still love B&W. I use NIK's Silver Efex Pro and print with a Canon Pixma Pro 9500 that will print true monochome. I'm able to get as good or better results compared to my wet lab days.

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Re: When was the end of Black & White?
In reply to harrygilbert, Jun 5, 2012

Started shooting color slides in 1957, it was on the west coast of B C Can. interesting part is that the town (Pop 3500-4000) now is a ghost town, maybe 15-25 people now
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In reply to Dan Desjardins, Jun 6, 2012

1963 for me. Perutz was king and I made 127 slides.

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"People" ... thanks!
In reply to Dan Desjardins, Jun 6, 2012

I'm all for the masses abandoning B&W, it just bolsters my price structure without my changing a thing. Thanks everybody. Best thing that could have happened for business.

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In reply to Dan Desjardins, Jun 6, 2012

I have been known to B/W once and a while. It boils down to what I want as an end product and mainly what I want to convey

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