My full review of the new X2 is up!

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Ming Thein
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In reply to Irakly Shanidze, May 14, 2012

Irakly Shanidze wrote:

excellent review
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In reply to Ming Thein, May 14, 2012

Fair enough. Thanks for your reply.

Ming Thein wrote:
...I run four different systems, and am an NPS member?

I work with Leica because they recognize that whilst exclusivity is great for marketing, it isn't so great for credibility. There are times I prefer to use my Nikons, or my M4/3 gear, or something else, and times I use the Leicas. I use the best tool for the job - the final yardstick for me is client delivery, not who sponsors the cameras (if at all).

Daedalus2000 wrote:

How can you say that you are brand agnostic when your signature says "Leica Camera brand ambassador"?

Very nice review by the way.

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Ming Thein wrote:

I run four systems. If it's a spade, I'll call it a spade - I'll use the best tool for the job, regardless of whatever it is.

I didn't think the X1 was useable for street work because it was a) slow to focus; b) slow to manually focus; c) battery didn't last long; d) sensor wasn't good enough to stop down all the way and guestimate distances - the distance indicator/ DOF scales are nowhere near as good as what you get on a say an M lens. The X2 is much better because of a combination of flip up EVF, focusing speed, and sensor.

You're talking about saggital coma, I think. I still see it on the X2 - it's the same lens.

janlu wrote:

very nice review and pleasant reading...... I also appreciate your sincerity as Leica ambassador in stating that the lens doesn't perform so well at F2.8 with the new sensor.... This X2 is for sure an improved X1, but i can't see in it a big step since i have never found my X1 unusable .

On the night shot wide-open on the X1 i have always noted a decentered Halo around the lights to sides of the frame ...not in the center though , ( i.e. street-lamps etc...) ..... do you experienced it with the X2 .... the lens is supposed to be exactly the same... .. or not ?

BTW i have also liked very much the Seascapes essay !!

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In reply to zeepyOne, May 15, 2012

The X2 is really the best under 11 ounce camera out there now. The Fuji X100 is 16 ounces, and 50% more volume. The X200 is twice the volume, it is larger than a Nikon D5100 in its frontal area.

The NEX Sony has horrific skin tones, people look orange, in low light there is a lot of chroma.

The OM-D is not the same size sensor at all.

Leica X1 (hope X2 is as good) has the color, sharpness unmatched. The Fuji X100 focuses half the time. It seems to always focus on the wall behind.

Now with the good AF, the X2 is the only under 11 ounce APS with great IQ.

If Leica could change the LCD it would appeal to many. The price is really OK, a fixed lens camera saves a lot of money in lenses!

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There is still one advantage, size, it is light and pocketable. Fuji, Sony or Olympus are bigger and the lens sticks out.

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In reply to Ming Thein, May 15, 2012

Thanks for your excellent review of the new X-2. Btw, how was the accuracy of the optional OVF?

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In reply to Ming Thein, May 19, 2012

This is a very good piece of work....
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Looked pretty good to me for focus...
In reply to Leo33, May 22, 2012

...not so good for final tonality/ color.

Leo33 wrote:

Thanks for your excellent review of the new X-2. Btw, how was the accuracy of the optional OVF?

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Gul Chotrani wrote:

This is a very good piece of work....
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In reply to Ming Thein, May 22, 2012

Excellent review.

I've also spent time with the X2, and I feel that you've caught the subtlety of the incremental improvements really well.

I think it's a fine camera - building on the good of the X1, and correcting the shortcomings.

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In reply to Jono Slack, May 28, 2012

Great review, excellent pictures. Like a breadth of fresh air a camera review made by an actual photographer and not a gear head

So, it seems that the usability is finally there - i.e. The camera does not hinder the photographic exoerience in any way, unlike the x1 which had terribly slow af. Would you say this camera can be used for street photography?

I know you said you found the x100 intolerable in its slowness and quirky operation. Are you talking about the x100 when it was first launched, or with the newer 1.20 firmware? I have one and the af speed seems pretty decent and very accurate with latest firmware - comparable to a panasonic gf1 maybe, maybe a tad faster, all i can say is that af doensn't seem like a major problem now. The camera still has weird quirks like occassional hangups or slow startup, now THOSE are irritanting. Would you say the x2 is better rounded than the x100 with regards to general usability and operation?

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In reply to Wellington100, May 28, 2012

…care to elaborate how you know that the Canon is "better in every way"…!?

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You are being very generous about a camera that for its price point should excel or at the very least equal the competition. Leica is known for premium products at premium prices.

This camera has not kept up to date with the state of play in the premium compact sector. In some ways it is already three years out of date. Why on earth would anyone buy it when the Canon G1X is available for far less money and is better in every way.

I hope Leica have something else up their sleeves, this camera is a non event.
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In reply to photo perzon, May 28, 2012

According to Camera Size.com ( http://camerasize.com/compare/#133,322 ) - the X2 is almost 13oz (12.7oz) with battery/card etc. The Fuji X100 is 15.7oz similarly equipped. Stripped or not - the X100 is only a bare 2oz heavier than X2. Both are relative lightweights.

Also - Where do you get your sub 11oz measurement from ? Even Leica specs state it's above 11oz even in it's body only form ...

As for the 50% more volume claim .... I don't know by which math you calculate 'volume' - or even what this term actually means - but the X100 dimensions are never greater than 2.5% - 5.0% overall so this seems very unlikely too ....

photo perzon wrote:

The X2 is really the best under 11 ounce camera out there now. The Fuji X100 is 16 ounces, and 50% more volume. The X200 is twice the volume, it is larger than a Nikon D5100 in its frontal area.

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In reply to Ming Thein, May 28, 2012

Dear Ming,

congratulations for your open discussion, honest evaluation and ready ness to reply to comments. Good job

Ulrich

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In reply to Ming Thein, May 28, 2012

Thanks for the review, Ming.

I could see my way to acquiring an X2 next year. It is appealing.
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In reply to Ming Thein, May 29, 2012

Ming, thank you VERY MUCH!!!

Your review suggesting X2> X1 ( http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/05/11/leica-review-1/ ), along with another one very favourably comparing the X1 to the X100 ( http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/05/23/my-leica-x1-and-fuji-x100-comparison-photos-and-my-thoughts/ ), has made me think twice recently before rushing to get an E-M5 instead of a Leica as a street complement to my sweet Oly E-5 & Zuiko 4/3 system...

While the handier Fuji X or Oly OM-D were just a vague whimsical desire at first, I now dream of Leica; of course, for the brand name itself and the obvious craftsmanship it entails (who wouldn't, in all honesty?), but also for the immodest qualities of its lens and for the rare subtlety of its color processor, all that via a creativity-inducing streamlined interface.

Moreover, glad to read that the AF and sensor have been greatly improved upon from the X1 days, yet hoping that the unbelievable 3D-like images of said predecessor will remain (!?)

Take care,

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In reply to profus, May 29, 2012

Who would want one? ---

Tada!!!

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In reply to Ming Thein, May 29, 2012

I believe that Ming is right: to me, the Leica IQ factor is NOT just a mythical urban legend anymore...

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