New Canon Micro 4/3 on the horizon?

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Steve Zeiger
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New Canon Micro 4/3 on the horizon?
May 10, 2012

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

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that would be great news for all of us, that means even more lenses to choose from !!
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Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

Steve

They may release a mirrorless camera with a sensor the size of MFT, but there's no way in "the eternal hot place" they are going to release a camera with a MFT mount.

That said, even if they DO release a mirrorless camera with a smaller sensor, what lenses will they use? Who wants to use FF or APS-C sized lenses on a smaller body - what's the point? If they introduce a new mount with smaller lenses, then they are basically behind everybody else like Panasonic, Olympus, Sony, Samsung, etc.

What is their strategy? Hmmm....

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It may be the sensor used in the G1X and that's quite nice!

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In reply to Steve Zeiger, May 10, 2012

The Canon sensor size is similar.

The APS sensors sizes were all similar too (but not the same) which allowed companies like Tamron and Sigma to make lenses that worked on the different mounts.

My bet is we will see smaller/ligher 4:3 lenses made for both systems, but not for the larger APS mirrorless cameras which need larger/heavier lenses.

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First off, I'd love it if Canon actually joined the MFT 'consortium', but I dunno if it'd be in their interest to do so...or Canon/Oly's to LET them do so.

But the other thing is that Canon, somewhat strangely, can't make their cameras/lenses too good, or they'll end up cannibalizing their DSLR products, which they have so much profit, tooling & experience wrapped up in.

They'll have to be like Nikon & release a 'dumbed-down' system that will have to 'max-out' at a certain point when they hope/expect that owner will move 'up' to a DSLR.

OR...maybe they'll have the ballz to go the other way....they see how Nikons V has failed, how Sony doesn't seem to be 'all in' w/the NEX cameras (as seen from the glacier-like pace of lens releases). So they might choose to come out of the box with, say, a dozen lenses...many of them fast...and several bodies, including one or more enthusiast/pro level ones.

Of all the companies, they have the resources to pull that off (they're a much larger company than Nikon....MUCH larger!!!). I for one would like to see that. I'll stick w/my OMD for a long while, but who knows...I was raised in a Canon F-1 family, so I could see myself being swayed to come 'home'.

But I ain't gonna cancel my OMD for some July announcment of something that won't probby be available until fall & won't 'mature' for a few years.

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Agreed. I read somewhere that it will be have its own mount, but be able to take EF lenses as well (I assume through an adapter).

Travis wrote:

Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

Steve

They may release a mirrorless camera with a sensor the size of MFT, but there's no way in "the eternal hot place" they are going to release a camera with a MFT mount.

That said, even if they DO release a mirrorless camera with a smaller sensor, what lenses will they use? Who wants to use FF or APS-C sized lenses on a smaller body - what's the point? If they introduce a new mount with smaller lenses, then they are basically behind everybody else like Panasonic, Olympus, Sony, Samsung, etc.

What is their strategy? Hmmm....

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Rumors are, and likely true if they do produce a small sensor ICL camera, that it will be the same sensor as the Canon GX-1. Why wouldn't they anyway?

Yeah, no chance of it being micro 4/3rds, but a 4:3 ratio sensor like the GX-1 which is just a hair larger than 4/3 and m4/3 sensors actually are.

A little sad in a way, it would be cool if Canon jumped on the micro 4/3rds consortium band wagon. Unless I am missing something both Olympus and Panasonic are doing pretty well sharing the same lens mount and sensor size specifications. Call me a heritic, but in some ways it would be nice if ALL camera manufacturers could just agree on a single lens mount and sensor format for each "interval". same lens mount, register distance, electrical contacts and lens communication + sensor size/format for m4/3 and 4/3, agree on the same stuff for APS-c and the same for full frame.

Then it is up to you which camera you want to get and you can access ALL manufacturers lenses in that size range for their desired camera. I think it might even make more money for most manufacturers instead of having someone buy in to a system and have to sell everything off if they decide they covet one lens from another system, or one camera, or what have you. You its a lot of money spent to buy in...but I think you have lots of people who won't make the switch because they are locked in and then staggnate in the system without buying new gear.

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In reply to Steve Zeiger, May 10, 2012

based on stupid rumor. and why is that 4/3 rumor at all?
what does Canon's coincidental sensor size have to do with m4/3?

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whoodle wrote:

But the other thing is that Canon, somewhat strangely, can't make their cameras/lenses too good, or they'll end up cannibalizing their DSLR products, which they have so much profit, tooling & experience wrapped up in.

They'll have to be like Nikon & release a 'dumbed-down' system that will have to 'max-out' at a certain point when they hope/expect that owner will move 'up' to a DSLR.

You hit the nail on the head here. These guys are scared to mess with their cash-cows.

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In reply to Triggr Happy, May 10, 2012

It doesn't matter what the header says, 'real' news that Canon's coming out w/a mirrorless system is HUGE news for this forum (thought it's a rumor site, this isn't a rumor anymore, they've announced dates for the real announcement).

Besides, their sensor is the same size, more or less, as MFT, and how do you KNOW that they are not in fact joining the MFT consortium?

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If true, the cameras look like the old Canon rangefinder

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I agree. Longtime Canonite here and I can't ever see them going outside their own mounts, manufacturing, etc. Loved your euphemism BTW LOL.

It took ages for them to come out with their first dedicated lenses for APS-c and it might be the same if/when they do mirrorless. OR they could have a few when they introduce a body. Regardless, they will be behind. I've already tried my EF lenses on my m4/3 and they are big, heavy and not a good choice for a smaller body IMO. I can't ever see me going with Canon for my mirrorless system at this point.

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Travis wrote:

Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

Steve

They may release a mirrorless camera with a sensor the size of MFT, but there's no way in "the eternal hot place" they are going to release a camera with a MFT mount.

That said, even if they DO release a mirrorless camera with a smaller sensor, what lenses will they use? Who wants to use FF or APS-C sized lenses on a smaller body - what's the point? If they introduce a new mount with smaller lenses, then they are basically behind everybody else like Panasonic, Olympus, Sony, Samsung, etc.

What is their strategy? Hmmm....

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Sure they are. When pigs fly! LOL

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, and how do you KNOW that they are not in fact joining the MFT consortium?

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Can be just to tease and to put some potential Micro 4/3 buyers in wait for this

And be a lie

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Travis wrote:

Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

I'm sure it will be their own mount, with a new line of lenses. Some of the aps lenses are smaller. The 55-250 is about the same as the Panasonic 45-200. And the 60 Macro is compact.

They were behind Minolta and Nikon when they came out with their EOS auto focus film camera system, and have done well with it since then. Canon has the technology and the resources to develop a competitive mirror-less system, if they decide to go that way.

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They may release a mirrorless camera with a sensor the size of MFT, but there's no way in "the eternal hot place" they are going to release a camera with a MFT mount.

That said, even if they DO release a mirrorless camera with a smaller sensor, what lenses will they use? Who wants to use FF or APS-C sized lenses on a smaller body - what's the point? If they introduce a new mount with smaller lenses, then they are basically behind everybody else like Panasonic, Olympus, Sony, Samsung, etc.

What is their strategy? Hmmm....

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brudy wrote:

Agreed. I read somewhere that it will be have its own mount, but be able to take EF lenses as well (I assume through an adapter).

Yeah, they would be foolish NOT to have an EF adaptor of some sort. And for some, this will be a great thing because they can continue to use all of their existing lenses. However, they will soon realize that the lenses are just too big and heavy and basically overkill for the nice, new, compact mirrorless camera they just bought...

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Diane B wrote:

I agree. Longtime Canonite here and I can't ever see them going outside their own mounts, manufacturing, etc. Loved your euphemism BTW LOL.

Haha, thanks!

It took ages for them to come out with their first dedicated lenses for APS-c and it might be the same if/when they do mirrorless. OR they could have a few when they introduce a body. Regardless, they will be behind. I've already tried my EF lenses on my m4/3 and they are big, heavy and not a good choice for a smaller body IMO. I can't ever see me going with Canon for my mirrorless system at this point.

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Yep, it's one thing to put FF lenses on an APS-C camera, which I have done on Canon for years. For example, the Canon 35mm F1.4L lens that I just sold was my favorite lens on my Canon APS-C cameras for years. But it's really a FF lens and it's a bit overkill for APS-C. But it's quite another thing to stick a FF lens on a MFT-sized camera! And even the EF-S specific lenses are not going to be ideal for such a camera.

So Canon will certainly have to introduce a new line of lenses... so I'm not so such backwards compatibility is going to be such an advantage to them as they'd like.

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Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

I wouldn't be so sure its mFT
more likely it is just because of mFT

they've watched Nikon 1 prices drop and figured the best, the most certain place for them to be is the same size as mFT

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Rriley wrote:

Steve Zeiger wrote:

Sorry if this has already been posted here...I'm sure many will tell me if it has, LOL.

http://www.43rumors.com/big-rumors-from-competition-canon-mirrorless-windeed-with-four-thirds-sized-sensor/

I wouldn't be so sure its mFT
more likely it is just because of mFT

they've watched Nikon 1 prices drop and figured the best, the most certain place for them to be is the same size as mFT

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Maybe, but I only believe on this when I see the launch from Canon

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