The Leica M9-P article.

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BamaPanda
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The Leica M9-P article.
May 7, 2012

I find it so interesting how live view ...at it's inception ..was regarded so contemptuously by many. Now it is seen in a completely different light.

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I suspect there may be technical reasons why Leica does not offer live view in its digital M-series models, but it is annoying nonetheless that I could get more precise focussing and framing from my 1953-vintage M3 than I can from the M9. 'How so?' you ask. Well, there was a door in the back of the M3 (and subsequent film M models) specifically designed to allow access to the film plane, so you could place a sheet of ground glass in there for critical focussing and composition. Now admittedly I've never done that, but that's not the point - the point is that the need of some customers for more critical focussing and composition than could be achieved using the viewfinder alone was recognised by Leica in the 1950s.

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In reply to BamaPanda, May 7, 2012

Ya, I read that too

Mind you, back in the 80'ies everyone who saw themselves as serious photographers were down on AF too... "It would never be as fast as a real photographer" "It would never be as precise" "It is a gimmick for consumers and not for real photographers"...

From what I have read, this was also the case back when 35mm film was introduced, too small, real photographers would never be satisfied with the low quality, bad resolution and dynamic range...

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Well, in fairness, the early implementation of live-view were pretty poor, and pretty deserving of contempt. That was pretty much true of early AF. I could focus track better than the early AF systems. And film came a long way over the years. The truth is that the early Leica's were pretty limited in what you could expect in terms of print sizes and sharpness because of the small film size.
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I think Leica people know they have to be as far as possible as any other camera brand in terms of features, as long as they remain "purists" with their approach will be fine, they have their niche which is a very loyal one.

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If I would have the $$ I would have an M9. I love their concept of no bull 1000 features camera. Simple; few buttons, no crap.

Unfortunately the lack of features seems to cost more than an ocean of them for no reason given. I cannot say an M9 outperforms the GH2 to justify the price difference (and in many ways the GH2 is even better).

If the Leica's were priced as they should be priced (no 1000%+ margin), it would be a good camera. Anyway my guess is they won't be around very much longer.

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I think Leica people know they have to be as far as possible as any other camera brand in terms of features, as long as they remain "purists" with their approach will be fine, they have their niche which is a very loyal one.

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hello world wrote:

. Anyway my guess is they won't be around very much longer.

Which company are you talking about
Panasonic's Q3 results showed a $9 billion loss with talk of restructuring.
Leica made considerable profit and are building two new factories.

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Johann D
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How 'bout because they use a Kodak CCD sensor?

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SphericalAberration wrote:

hello world wrote:

. Anyway my guess is they won't be around very much longer.

Which company are you talking about
Panasonic's Q3 results showed a $9 billion loss with talk of restructuring.

$9B loss is with Sanyo acquisition writedown. Operating loss is 8B yen .

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