Boat Picture. Bibble Pro vs Aperture..

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Boat Picture. Bibble Pro vs Aperture..
May 4, 2012

Sharpened like hell on Bibble Pro on the left. Aperture as I did on the right.

There is more sharpness (slider half way across) but no-one's going to see this anyway. Why would one?

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It's not just edge sharpness missing on the Aperture conversion
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but also textural detail. I prefer the Bibble conversion by a fair margin. However, I suspect by disabling all NR and sharpening in Aperture and dealing with noise in Photoshop, you could achieve a similar, if not superior, result to the Bibble conversion.

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I doubt you'd see the difference in a print though..
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Re: Boat Picture. Bibble Pro vs Aperture..
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Why not take the quality that both the lens and camera offer? It's clear from the texture in the sweater Aperture is compromising the camera equipment. I too am a user of Aperture, but have realized Apple needs to upgrade the program in a number of ways, sharpening being one.

As for viewers, I believe people do indeed enjoy detail when it is presented to them. Acuity is pretty cool, really.

Edit: Also, I noticed in the original post image some CA. Did you correct for it in Aperture? It would sharpen the image a bit more.

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No. My criterion is a print. The ca in this would be quite invisible in any print. If you cut your teeth in the film era as I did you would have a different approach. I've had some great photos which would horrify digital man at 100% on scans!
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But, Bibble is defunct
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It's now some product offered by Corel. But, why would anyone want that?

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Yep, spent 25+ years with 35mm film. Undeniably, the pristine quality of digital is a shift.

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The Bibble image is just an oversharpened version of an OOF shot.

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That would depend
In reply to Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee, May 5, 2012

on the size of the print, the type of print, and the photographer's (or service bureau's) skill at preparing the image for output. At A3 and larger, I bet I could produce an inkjet print that pretty readily exploits the additional textural information and fine detail in the Bibble conversion.

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I doubt you'd see the difference in a print though..
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Not at A3, but larger yes. I spent years printing A3+ until I got fed up of it as I had nowhere to store them.
I now only print A4 or smaller and if I want a bigger print, I get it printed.

To the person who persists in saying that the boat picture is OOF, all I can say is that your knowledge of photography would encompass about 4 pixels.

It is is my opinion, based of years of printing, that looking at things at 100% is a mistake from the point of view of choosing images. It is too exacting.

Now this image here...

Would print very well at A3, believe it or not. It's a bit compressed but it's a 19mp scan of a scanned 35mm slide.

This is a bit of it at 100%

If it were uncompressed it would just look grainier, but not more detailed.

I've printed a lot of 35mm scans at a3 and they look surprisingly good, and sometimes as lot more like a photograph than modern digital stuff.

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To the person who persists in saying that the boat picture is OOF, all I can say is that your knowledge of photography would encompass about 4 pixels.

I did not say your boat image was out of focus(it is indeed in focus,) but did suggest the acuity of the image could be better. But obviously you are happy with your own definition of what good photography is, so good for you. Or you are too lazy to practice good craftsmanship.

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Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee wrote:

To the person who persists in saying that the boat picture is OOF, all I can say is that your knowledge of photography would encompass about 4 pixels.

Yeah, 4 pixels (of blur) is about right.

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In reply to mandophoto, May 5, 2012

I apologize for my rudeness, arrogance is a little too easy to come by on the internet. Sorry.

mandophoto wrote:

To the person who persists in saying that the boat picture is OOF, all I can say is that your knowledge of photography would encompass about 4 pixels.

I did not say your boat image was out of focus(it is indeed in focus,) but did suggest the acuity of the image could be better. But obviously you are happy with your own definition of what good photography is, so good for you. Or you are too lazy to practice good craftsmanship.

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