Is it possible to do pics like these in m4/3?

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Is it possible to do pics like these in m4/3?
May 1, 2012

is it possible to do pics like these in m4/3?

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Yes !

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To ge tthe narrow Depth of Field to get the subject isolation and smooth background one needs a fast lens with a round f-stop blades. The 45mm Olympus and the upcoming 75mm Olympus should do just fine. Most of the earlier m-4/3 lenses are just a little too slow to give these results.

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is it possible to do pics like these in m4/3?

Yes and no. You can get the back- foreground blurred like in these images, but mft cannot really do wideangle + shallow depth of field at a reasonable distance from the subject. Anyway, you can get close and the third image you can do. You just need a correct lens, which may even mean manual focus.

Or am I wrong and can the 25mm f/1.4 do this?

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Well, on two of the images he's using two of the better portrait lenses out there, the Canon 100mm/2.8L and the 135mm/2.0L.

The 45/1.8 should fit the bill nicely for these shots. The upcoming 75mm would be perfect, as would the 35-100/2.8 that's rumored to be coming out.

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is it possible to do pics like these in m4/3?

Yes and no. You can get the back- foreground blurred like in these images, but mft cannot really do wideangle + shallow depth of field at a reasonable distance from the subject. Anyway, you can get close and the third image you can do. You just need a correct lens, which may even mean manual focus.

Or am I wrong and can the 25mm f/1.4 do this?

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Yes. if you weren't a fauxtographer you wouldn't ask.

Obviously YOU are not capable of photographs like this, if you were you would post your own pictures instead of looking for huge DOF shots made by others.
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thanks, i was searching for pics taken with m43 but nothing appears, so i started to doubt if it was possible

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I would probably look to something like the Voigtländer Noktons for minimum depth of field, but they should be able to handle it quite well, so... "yes" micro four-thirds can do it.

Look around in the flickr groups. I just picked some random photos done with Noktons:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldblackong/6935529373/in/pool-1533591@N20

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lars_petter/6898181119/in/pool-1533591@N20

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryojin_s/6742150957/in/pool-1533591@N20

All the above is done using the 25 mm Nokton. The 17.5 mm Nokton is fairly new (and pricey) so not that many pictures around around from it yet.

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search this frum under olympus 45mm 1.8 you should get some portraits to look at marla 2008 s pics sping to mind.

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Didn't realize they weren't his until you mentioned this. They are nice shots though!

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Yes. if you weren't a fauxtographer you wouldn't ask.

Obviously YOU are not capable of photographs like this, if you were you would post your own pictures instead of looking for huge DOF shots made by others.
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For 1500 you can buy a 5dmk1 and a 135F2 and make images like that all day long. $700 for 5dmk1 and $700 for 135F2L. give or take $100.

Thats the easiest way to do it period.

All of them can be shot with the M43 sensor. Lenses wise. The 25mm and 45mm will be able to take that portrait shot. no problem. M43 does not have a native lens that can shoot the full body portraits that would look like that..

A Canon 85mm 1.2 MF lens would be able to do it though. You going to need a tad more space though... $1200

The 75mm 1.8 MIGHT be able to....but the Canon 85mm 1.2 can wide open. It would look better then the 75mm. It might even be cheaper vs the 75mm 1.8....

Recreating something from full frame on anything but full frame is very hard. Ive tried for year to do it with crop canons. i stopped with the 7d and got a 5dmk1.

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Not sure if its a trick question but lets answer like this. Its true that by setting up the camera correctly one can go a long way in getting excellent results. I disagree with the poster referring to the limitations of 4 Thirds. Its like this, if I had to stand next to a guy with a 5D and I with my E-PL2 with 45mm lens then yes I will have limitations. If I on the other hand may use another lens and move then much are possible....you need to know your equipment and practice....

The look you showed is not 100% but close to a popular look seen on various advertising images, magazines and the cloth industry....for that type look you need to master a few unique editing techniques, the camera can only go that far....

Its true that we can all sit in a row and compete on taking the best image or you can take out the artist in you and enjoy creating art using both your camera plus Photoshop....

I added a basic layer section to my website to help photographers work with layers. In that section I describe a basic sharpening technique that can help you move in the right direction.....its not enough, you still need to look more once you get the feel of the basics

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In reply to jcr20190, May 1, 2012

Possible, but not easy.

With the current lens line-up, the 3rd shot is easily achievable.

You can get close to the effect of the 1st shot.

The 2nd shot is not possible with the current lens line-up. The upcoming 75 f1.8 should get you similar result, but probably still can't duplicate that effect.

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In reply to muddyfunster, May 1, 2012

I was going to bring this up. Most of the M4/3 photos posted in this thread have a very different composition than his first two examples. I'm not saying that they couldn't be done (in fact I don't think it would be a problem with the right lenses), but no one has posted a good shot proving that they can be yet in the thread.

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well, i dont have a high specs camera, i have a LX3, and a small DOF in portraits is one of the things i would like to have, im thinking on buying a m43 but i doubt if these cameras were capable of doing this type of photographies

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mFT would also be hard pressed to capture a fast prime's field curvature which is evident in the OP's shots. It also won't have the same level of background compression (74mm vs 135mm, for example).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayphotoworks/6317490856/in/set-72157628063455664

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayphotoworks/2901126529/in/set-72157607599412386/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayphotoworks/2901969412/in/set-72157607599412386/

I would reach for the best gear to realize the intended vision and understand the limits of each.

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the full body portraits would be the most difficult to achieve with m4/3rds, the head and shoulder shot easily done.
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I think this guy is much more attractive...

EPM1+45 f/1.8

LOL!

Kidding aside, yes, you can get blurry background with m4/3 and the right combination of f-stop and distance (from camera to subject and subject to background).

I don't shoot a lot of people, so I don't have a good sample set for you, but here's some I could find that show blurry backgrounds...

The last one was shot with the 20mm f/1.7 Pancake. The background isn't all that blurry, but it is a bit and this wasn't wide open... it's at f/2.8

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First......anyone is capable of this...with the proper equipment and state of mind.

second.....these arent huge DOF shots.....they have a very shallow amount of DOF.

DOF means depth of field......DOF= whats in focus. a 12mm at F8 shooting a landscape would have a huge DOF.

I think the reason he used these pictures....MIGHT be because he seen them and thought..."i really love these photo's, i wonder what i could do to make something similar"

So maybe he thought....hmmmmm ill post these on the M43 forums and see what they say. (he does)

Look.....im getting responses. (pats self on back).

Done and done.

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Yes. if you weren't a fauxtographer you wouldn't ask.

Obviously YOU are not capable of photographs like this, if you were you would post your own pictures instead of looking for huge DOF shots made by others.
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the full body portraits would be the most difficult to achieve with m4/3rds, the head and shoulder shot easily done.
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