New D600 FX This Summer

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MarceloLI
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New D600 FX This Summer
Apr 25, 2012

According with Nikon Rumors the new D600 FX will be released this summer.

That's mean Nikon product line will be separated in two segments:

DX D3100/ D5100/D7000

FX D600/D800/D4

That's mean no D400 or the successor of the D300 will be the D7100.

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In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

That's mean no D400 or the successor of the D300 will be the D7100.

Most likely a D8000.

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Cool - but not what I"m waiting for
In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

I'll still hold out to see what the D300 replacement is...

No rush, but the D600 is interesting (if you're into that FF stuff).
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Re: Cool - but not what I"m waiting for
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I'm more interested in the possible D600.
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Re: New D600 FX This Summer
In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

Well the naming makes sense. DX DSLRs start with odd numbers and the FX DSLRs will have even numbers. Rather straight forward.

I'm guessing the D7100 will have improved AF, shutter speed, build, etc. so that it takes the place of the 'pro' DX dslr. My guess also is the D5100 will be beefed up a bit too for 2013.

I'm excited by this new FX camera, I think it will be a welcome addition.

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D400 is toast...with D600 and poor guys who got the D700 lately.
In reply to DarkCeltDX, Apr 25, 2012

So the D7100 goes upscale, the 400 is dead, and the 600 sells for 1899 ? cool. Not saying it's definite, but when it happens, you heard it here first.

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Re: D400 is toast...with D600 and poor guys who got the D700 lately.
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jonrobertp wrote:

So the D7100 goes upscale, the 400 is dead, and the 600 sells for 1899 ? cool. Not saying it's definite, but when it happens, you heard it here first.

As long as the D600 isn't a step back in overall functionality from the D300, I'm in. If they neuter the AF or other controls, then count me out.

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In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

All guesses, he thinks it’s 40% of probability. Let see, it should be clear this year – some of it is gone.

If d90-d7000 line transformation through that substantial upgrade was not the last of this nature, what would remain then is the execution of the d7100 new body that should/would, in part or in all, be there instead of (or as) the d400 –depending really on what the body and all its powers would be like. D5200 would have some space to move its advancements and at the bottom so called low end. In short, in that case, it can be just about names and little re-grouping. Or, in case the d7100 wasn’t the dream machine that would replace the d300 line with 100% or 95% satisfaction, there will be some disappointment and chances that d7200 will be. Body wise, much depends on what the body would look like. It would have to be more robust thing to serve as a d300 line replacement.

The “problem” is about those names (a tricky one as it messes with not only lines but recently also formats) and another, about those real things behind them. So no one knows what they will be called like, and what’s worse what they in hell will look like or willing to do – or refusing to do! – Some are even unsure what they will cost (most are sure enough).

Nikon shrinking number of dx bodies would be some news. Nikon would have reasons for it in line with their other steps planned. If the number is reduced, they will try to cover all with them. D7100 role and exact satisfaction of d300 line users would remain to be seen. Ideally it’s a full d300 replacement where 90-95% of users consider it a success. Less ideally it would make leaving Nikon (many questions) a bit more difficult while pushing users to use d800 or fx as such – and longer lenses.

I think after d7100 is released Nikon will have to clear up the situation – if there isn’t d400 by that time.

My impression is that rumours about a budget fx are long time around. NR rates this 40%. That’s just a speculation and nothing changed. That fx is anticipated long time. At least he doesn’t call it d400.

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In reply to HSway, Apr 25, 2012

We'll see...that is if Nikonrumors is always absolutely 100% correct all the time
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I can confirm this from a highly placed source...
In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

Knowledge of this is why I didn't place my order for the 600 VR. It now comes down to whether the D7000 successor or the EOS 7D successor is a better camera for me. I already prefer the new Canon 600mm.
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In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

MarceloLI wrote:

That's mean no D400 or the successor of the D300 will be the D7100.

I don't think that's what he said. Or rather, he said contradictory things. He said:

maybe we will end up with three DX models D3x00, D5x00 and a high end D7x00 (all with 4 digits names) and the rest will be full frame cameras

but then he said:

I still believe that Nikon will release two more DSLR cameras in 2012.

linking to a previous story saying:

Nikon will announce three more DSLR cameras in 2012. I believe that the new cameras will all be DX models - my vote goes for Nikon D3100, D7000 and D300s replacements.

The D3100 replacement is here, so that means he's saying we'll have a DX D7000 replacement and a DX D300s replacement.

But he hedges his bets by saying the D600 rumour is "40% probability".

None of the rumours make total sense to me, but then we're talking about Nikon marketing plans, and I've never read anything from a marketing department that makes total sense.
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In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 25, 2012

This rumor actually makes some sense to me. I've been wondering if Nikon may be headed in this direction, primarily because of the recent spate of "semi-pro" FX lens upgrades - 50 f1.8G, 85 f1.8G, 28 f1.8G, 24-120 f4. Those lenses don't strike me as the first choices for "pro" D4 or D800 shooters, so a "semi-pro" FX body seems plausible to me.

I just hope they wouldn't strip too many features out to hit too low a price point. I'd expect, of course, a lower frame rate/smaller buffer and slightly lower video specs, but would hope to see them retain the improved AF and processing engine of the D4/D800, as well as D300-class weather sealing and build quality, with a 16 to 24 mp sensor. I don't know if they could do that at a sub-$2,000 US price point, but if so, I'd consider it seriously as an upgrade to my D300s.

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JimPearce wrote:

Knowledge of this is why I didn't place my order for the 600 VR. It now comes down to whether the D7000 successor or the EOS 7D successor is a better camera for me. I already prefer the new Canon 600mm.

Good point.

If Nikon dumps semi-pro DX cameras, so my only Nikon upgrade path is FX, then I'll have to buy several new lenses. And if I have to do that, why not see if Canon looks a better option.
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How could it have a lower frame rate than the D800?
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It would be comatose.
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what are the odds Canon follows Nikon lead, isn't the 7D way late on replacement too?

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A different situation...
In reply to sandy b, Apr 25, 2012

The EOS 7D was one of the best selling DSLRs in 2011. But there is no particular reason to believe that the EOS 7D successor will be a better camera than the D7000/D300s successor. Time will tell.
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Re: How could it have a lower frame rate than the D800?
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agreed, especially with a 4 fps 24 MP D3200. No way it will be

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It would be comatose.
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In reply to herbymel, Apr 26, 2012

Nikonrumors has been 100% correct on rumors where they were "99% certain"

There have been a lot of wrong 40% rumors. I remember the lens "roadmap" that "leaked" 2 years ago that many believed to be true. Couldn't have been more wrong. It will be interesting to see on this one - definitely plausible.

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Agree - At that point yep, why not investigate Canon's offering.

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JimPearce wrote:

Knowledge of this is why I didn't place my order for the 600 VR. It now comes down to whether the D7000 successor or the EOS 7D successor is a better camera for me. I already prefer the new Canon 600mm.

Good point.

If Nikon dumps semi-pro DX cameras, so my only Nikon upgrade path is FX, then I'll have to buy several new lenses. And if I have to do that, why not see if Canon looks a better option.
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In reply to MarceloLI, Apr 26, 2012

As long as the 7000 line remains, albeit with beefed up specs to meet the needs of 300s upgraders, then I would have no problem with this FX camera. I would be quite conflicted about the migration, though... while most of my shooting is normal stuff which can be covered by a 24-120 range, I do enjoy wildlife photography, and unless this hypothetical camera is 30+ MP then my lenses are just going to be too short.

Furthermore, I don't see paying $1800+ for a camera with decreased build quality / features (which they would have to do to maintain separation from the twice-as-expensive D800). Considering the saying (not sure how true it is) that the FX sensor alone costs close to $1000, that leaves $800 for the rest of the components. That may be possible if they go mirrorless (interesting thought), but if they retain the mirror / prism / etc there is not much room for extras like AF motor, seals, etc; you are basically looking at a 3200 / 5100 price range + big sensor.

I personally hope that Nikon remains dedicated to the enthusiast DX line; this camera range fits my needs more than a FX camera would, even if it was quite cheap compared to existing ones.

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