Yes...GF-5 Has A NEW SENSOR.......

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jimr
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Yes...GF-5 Has A NEW SENSOR.......
Apr 24, 2012

As this information seems to have been overlooked....or buried in postings....

From dpreview;

" Under the hood, the GF5's newly developed 12MP CMOS sensor

is an evolution of the one used in the GF3, but with improved circuitry that doesn't block as much light entering the photosite, giving better low light performance. The image processor is also different, and Panasonic promises that the latest version of its Venus Engine will deliver improved noise performance. These factors, combined with a noise reduction system that treats highlights and shadows differently (since the dominant cause of the noise differs between the two regions), has emboldened Panasonic to offer a boost to the camera's ISO range, with it now being extendable to 12800, rather than the GF3's 6400."

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Re: And from Panasonic Lumix
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http://www.panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gf5/performance.html#livemossensor

The DMC-GF5 incorporates newly developed 12.1-megapixel Live MOS sensor which features high sensitivity signal processing. Both photodiode circuit and readout circuit are also optimized to minimize noise generation through processing to readout. Furthermore, newly added NR circuit completes Panasonic’s excellent noise reduction system that thoroughly removes noise left at final processing stage.

  • And we can see from sample images that it is really better at least at high ISO

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Re: Yes...GF-5 Has A NEW SENSOR.......
In reply to jimr, Apr 24, 2012

I'm curious if Olympus will use the OM's or the GF5's sensor for the next entry level PL/PM. I guess the latter, it might give them a chance to distinguish their line-up a little bit.

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ThorKre wrote:

I'm curious if Olympus will use the OM's or the GF5's sensor for the next entry level PL/PM. I guess the latter, it might give them a chance to distinguish their line-up a little bit.

I think they will use it, the sensor is good and 12 megapixels is enough for this kind of cameras, and for many users

I still don't feel the need for more than 12 megapixels

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Good for the GF5's target market, but Panny have already released new sensors
In reply to jimr, Apr 24, 2012

it's good news for the GF5's target market (tho to be honest they can't keep putting that 4 year old sensor in new cameras forever), but since the release of the G3/GX1 with completely new sensors there isn't really much buzz around this sensor (for an entry level camera after all).

Given the model's position I'd think IQ will be on-par with the G3/GX1, just at a lower resolution. Hopefully with the next round of upgrades (G5/GX2) there will be more improvements, and the GH3 will likely release with the best performing Panasonic sensor so far.

As this information seems to have been overlooked....or buried in postings....

From dpreview;

" Under the hood, the GF5's newly developed 12MP CMOS sensor

is an evolution of the one used in the GF3, but with improved circuitry that doesn't block as much light entering the photosite, giving better low light performance. The image processor is also different, and Panasonic promises that the latest version of its Venus Engine will deliver improved noise performance. These factors, combined with a noise reduction system that treats highlights and shadows differently (since the dominant cause of the noise differs between the two regions), has emboldened Panasonic to offer a boost to the camera's ISO range, with it now being extendable to 12800, rather than the GF3's 6400."

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evolution of 12mp
In reply to jimr, Apr 24, 2012

Sounds like they have new microlenses and new back-end processing. In theory, it should perform as well as the Sony 16mp in the Pentax K01. But, i wouldnt keep my hopes up.. they need to redesign it from the ground up.

jimr wrote:

As this information seems to have been overlooked....or buried in postings....

From dpreview;

" Under the hood, the GF5's newly developed 12MP CMOS sensor

is an evolution of the one used in the GF3, but with improved circuitry that doesn't block as much light entering the photosite, giving better low light performance. The image processor is also different, and Panasonic promises that the latest version of its Venus Engine will deliver improved noise performance. These factors, combined with a noise reduction system that treats highlights and shadows differently (since the dominant cause of the noise differs between the two regions), has emboldened Panasonic to offer a boost to the camera's ISO range, with it now being extendable to 12800, rather than the GF3's 6400."

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Re: Or a 12MP version of the OM-D's sensor
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That would make more sense to me rather than (from an engineering perspective) parallel, completely different developments.

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Re: Good for the GF5's target market, but Panny have already released new sensors
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Andy Crowe wrote:

it's good news for the GF5's target market (tho to be honest they can't keep putting that 4 year old sensor in new cameras forever), but since the release of the G3/GX1 with completely new sensors there isn't really much buzz around this sensor (for an entry level camera after all).

Given the model's position I'd think IQ will be on-par with the G3/GX1, just at a lower resolution. Hopefully with the next round of upgrades (G5/GX2) there will be more improvements, and the GH3 will likely release with the best performing Panasonic sensor so far.

  • Yes but this GF5 is good because is 12 megapixels, I like it, less pixels and new technology, about the GX2 that will take sometime to appear, but the GH3 is going to have a new 15 megapixels sensor, at least from what I have read

As this information seems to have been overlooked....or buried in postings....

From dpreview;

" Under the hood, the GF5's newly developed 12MP CMOS sensor

is an evolution of the one used in the GF3, but with improved circuitry that doesn't block as much light entering the photosite, giving better low light performance. The image processor is also different, and Panasonic promises that the latest version of its Venus Engine will deliver improved noise performance. These factors, combined with a noise reduction system that treats highlights and shadows differently (since the dominant cause of the noise differs between the two regions), has emboldened Panasonic to offer a boost to the camera's ISO range, with it now being extendable to 12800, rather than the GF3's 6400."

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Re: Good for the GF5's target market, but Panny have already released new sensors
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proof is in the eating.

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The performance of this new sensor remains to be proved.
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But who makes the sensor?
In reply to jimr, Apr 27, 2012

Sony?
Fuji?
Whatever Kodak imaging turned into?
Maybe even Canon?

Couldn't resist that one...

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Re: Good for the GF5's target market, but Panny have already released new sensors
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  • Yes but this GF5 is good because is 12 megapixels, I like it, less pixels and new technology, about the GX2 that will take sometime to appear, but the GH3 is going to have a new 15 megapixels sensor, at least from what I have read

In theory you should be able to get better per-pixel quality from a lower res sensor, but if they're only aiming for pixel quality on par with the GX1 (which makes sense for an entry level camera) then the 16 mp sensor will give better over-all quality simply because it has more resolution (it can be resized down to 12mp for better sharpness)

Of course we won't know until we get some test results back, but given it's position in the line-up I'd be surprised to see Panasonic putting their best sensor in it.

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Re: But who makes the sensor?
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TrapperJohn wrote:

Sony?
Fuji?
Whatever Kodak imaging turned into?
Maybe even Canon?

Couldn't resist that one...

And Samsung ...

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