NX20 (beta firmware) autofocus!

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NX20 (beta firmware) autofocus!
Apr 23, 2012
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focus looks good, the interesting part to me was the price of the cam she quoted at the end

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freedo wrote:

looks promising:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU5Hsa0VWic

I will wait for testing done by proper reviewers.

That video is made by paid Samsung people. You don't know how quick they are pressing the bottoms and panning, trying to make their camera look better.

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ET2 wrote:

That video is made by paid Samsung people.

I have not found any proof of this. Do you have one?

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targut wrote:

ET2 wrote:

That video is made by paid Samsung people.

I have not found any proof of this. Do you have one?

My personal experience is that the Samsung focus is faster on my NX200 than my NEX 3 and I am not paid/employed by Samsung. I think it is a lame attempt to discredit Samsung's focusing performance.

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100% sure it's a paid shill
In reply to freedo, Apr 23, 2012

freedo wrote:

looks promising:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU5Hsa0VWic

I checked that uploader history and I am 100% sure now it's Samsung paid shill. If you check the uploaded history, every video is about is about Samsung NX .. and they did exactly the same kind of "AF test" with previous NX cameras (videos and stills) and magically in 100% of these videos, Samsung is always the winner.

Wait for proper reviews.

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In reply to ET2, Apr 23, 2012

ET2 wrote:

freedo wrote:

looks promising:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU5Hsa0VWic

I checked that uploader history and I am 100% sure now it's Samsung paid shill. If you check the uploaded history, every video is about is about Samsung NX .. and they did exactly the same kind of "AF test" with previous NX cameras (videos and stills) and magically in 100% of these videos, Samsung is always the winner.

I doubt it, their history is about engineering geekiness, how to use stepper motors, converting a 30mm f/2 lens to autofocus a manual lens, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

They look like an engineer/nerd, which is the type of poster I am more likely to trust.

I think maybe you are the shill?

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viking79 wrote:

My personal experience is that the Samsung focus is faster on my NX200 than my NEX 3 and I am not paid/employed by Samsung. I think it is a lame attempt to discredit Samsung's focusing performance.

It's not a "lame" attempt. The uploader of that video is a paid shill.

We have a user here on this forum who had all three cameras NX20, Nex-5N, and Nex-7. Remember that? His personal "experience" was that NX20 was slightly (not far) behind.

Want me to find that post for you?

In any case, whether it's better or worse, the proper reviews will decide that.

Meanwhile, anyone who is interested in real facts from real reviewers, can check IR tests of the older models

NX200
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NX200/NX200A6.HTM

Nex-7
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX7/NEX7A6.HTM

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In reply to ET2, Apr 23, 2012

It is my video which I posted in youtube. I tested the NX20 as a beta-tester.
I didn't see any money from Samsung in my bank account.

Wow, you know me more than I do about myself!!!!!!

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That video is made by paid Samsung people. You don't know how quick they are pressing the bottoms and panning, trying to make their camera look better.

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I doubt it, their history is about engineering geekiness, how to use stepper motors, converting a 30mm f/2 lens to autofocus a manual lens, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

Funny this "engineer" has nothing else to say about anything else in life except Samsung. LOL

By the way, there is a history of Samsung posting such shill paid videos ... Let me show you two more examples

Here is another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

Want me to find more videos like that? I will (in a second) .. enjoy the above video for now

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ET2 wrote:

viking79 wrote:

My personal experience is that the Samsung focus is faster on my NX200 than my NEX 3 and I am not paid/employed by Samsung. I think it is a lame attempt to discredit Samsung's focusing performance.

It's not a "lame" attempt. The uploader of that video is a paid shill.

We have a user here on this forum who had all three cameras NX20, Nex-5N, and Nex-7. Remember that? His personal "experience" was that NX20 was slightly (not far) behind.

Want me to find that post for you?

In any case, whether it's better or worse, the proper reviews will decide that.

Confirmation bias?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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In reply to ET2, Apr 23, 2012

Hey, please stop it. It is not funny.

I am a FedEx SW engineer and I like cameras and it is my hobby.

ET2 wrote:

viking79 wrote:

I doubt it, their history is about engineering geekiness, how to use stepper motors, converting a 30mm f/2 lens to autofocus a manual lens, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

Funny this "engineer" has nothing else to say about anything else in life except Samsung. LOL

By the way, there is a history of Samsung posting such shill paid videos ... Let me show you two more examples

Here is another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

Want me to find more videos like that? I will (in a second) .. enjoy the above video for now

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viking79 wrote:

ET2 wrote:

viking79 wrote:

My personal experience is that the Samsung focus is faster on my NX200 than my NEX 3 and I am not paid/employed by Samsung. I think it is a lame attempt to discredit Samsung's focusing performance.

It's not a "lame" attempt. The uploader of that video is a paid shill.

We have a user here on this forum who had all three cameras NX20, Nex-5N, and Nex-7. Remember that? His personal "experience" was that NX20 was slightly (not far) behind.

Want me to find that post for you?

In any case, whether it's better or worse, the proper reviews will decide that.

Confirmation bias?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Enjoy the above "user" (hahah) review ... that I posted in the last post. Samsung is so much better, huh?

I am trying find another video that I saw last year... wait a second. Internet, it's hard to find things again that you saw an year ago

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ET2 wrote:

viking79 wrote:

I doubt it, their history is about engineering geekiness, how to use stepper motors, converting a 30mm f/2 lens to autofocus a manual lens, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

Funny this "engineer" has nothing else to say about anything else in life except Samsung. LOL

If I were an engineer (actually, I am an engineer), I would test cameras I was interested in personally (oh, wait, I do that). If I had a Samsung camera, I would use that for my testing and tinkering.

By the way, there is a history of Samsung posting such shill paid videos ... Let me show you two more examples

Here is another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

Did you think that the NX might have been the better camera in those comparisons? At least for the tests that were run.

Want me to find more videos like that? I will (in a second) .. enjoy the above video for now

I have looked at their videos, I think they are great and extremely educational. I am glad he made those videos.

Eric

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Hey, please stop it. It is not funny.

I am a FedEx SW engineer and I like cameras and it is my hobby.

Ok, given you are responding to me .. unlike people like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

I will give you the benefit of doubt for now.

How did you get NX20 beta?

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viking79 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

Did you think that the NX might have been the better camera in those comparisons?
At least for the tests that were run.

No, I think the video was made to make Samsung "win" in all test ... It's paid video.

By the way, how did the tester get NX20 beta?

I don't think even DPR has the camera .. so he must have some links to Samsung anyway

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ihkim wrote:

Hey, please stop it. It is not funny.

I am a FedEx SW engineer and I like cameras and it is my hobby.

On a second thought, how did you get even Nex-7?

If you are engineer and own Nex-7, don't you ever had to say anything about nex-7?

And how did you get Nex-5 and Canon G1X that you tested against Samsung camera?

I find it strange that you own all these cameras but you only upload Samsung clips on youtube

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OK. I am a member in Korean photo web site slrclub.com
There is a Samsung forum. I have posted a lot of info. and rumors.

As I said I am very interested in Samsung NX, and very serious hobbyist.
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=newproduct_samsung

Find "록키산맥". It is my name in the forum.

One day, Samsung asked me as a NX20 closed user beta testing. Why did Samsung pick me? Ask Samsung.

ET2 wrote:

ihkim wrote:

Hey, please stop it. It is not funny.

I am a FedEx SW engineer and I like cameras and it is my hobby.

Ok, given you are responding to me .. unlike people like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr7FpfbHj8

I will give you the benefit of doubt for now.

How did you get NX20 beta?

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ET2 wrote:

viking79 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

Did you think that the NX might have been the better camera in those comparisons?
At least for the tests that were run.

No, I think the video was made to make Samsung "win" in all test ... It's paid video.

I just noticed this video was a different user? You are derailing the thread here. Anyway, this is a demonstration of confirmation bias. You are ignoring any samples that don't support your beliefs and making wild accusations in an attempt to discredit them. I am not saying the video is right or wrong, if there were errors in how they tested, but I think you need to stop making wild accusations.

By the way, how did the tester get NX20 beta?

I don't think even DPR has the camera .. so he must have some links to Samsung anyway

So, there is always the possibility that this will bias the results, but remember companies give out units to test prior to a release so they can get feedback on performance and make tweaks, adjustments, etc. It could also be something as simple as a setting on a camera, etc, that a reviewer might not be aware of.

Remember, any review site that takes advertising dollars will have biased results as well. Company A is not going to pay big dollars to advertise on a site giving them poor reviews.

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ET2 wrote:
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Here is another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5QVRgo4gi0

Magically in every test that "reviewer" does NX5 is the winner (not a single criteria where Nex-5 was "better")

http://vimeo.com/17510101

Enjoy another "Samsung" (paid) victory

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