You are not an artist

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James Pilcher
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You are not an artist
Apr 13, 2012

When you pull out your camera, you may be a photographer, but not necessarily an artist. I've read so many comments in this forum about how a person doesn't need a "portrait lens" so he is not interested in the Zuiko 45mm f/1.8. We currently have a thread approaching 150 posts where many people are questioning the need or purpose of the upcoming Zuiko 75mm f/1.8. Other people discuss their desire for "landscape" lens and, thus, the Zuiko 12mm f/2.

There is no word "portrait" on the 45mm or 75mm lens. There is no word "landscape" on the 12mm. In fact, those words do not appear on any lenses from any manufacturer (I'm sure someone will point out the exception that proves the rule).

You are not an artist if you cannot look at the possibilities that a lens offers and employ them creatively. If you avoid the 45mm because you don't do portraits, then you have no clue about the limitless potential of that lens. A gearhead will call it a "portrait lens" and pull it out when people are around. An artist will look at the lens and think, "Cool!"

I post some examples here of using lenses for purposes other than what the conventional "wisdom" demands. I do not call myself an artist, but neither do I pigeon hole any of my lenses for specific uses.

The Zuiko 12mm f/2 can do portraits:

The Zuiko 45mm can do landscapes:

The Lumix 8mm f/3.5 fisheye is more than a "gimmick" lens:

Are you an artist or a gearhead?

Jim Pilcher
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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Well said, Jim. But dude, it's DPR, of course it's gearheads
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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Completely agree!!

14mm doing portraits:

45mm doing landscapes:

Michael

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Sometimes you need a wide lens to take in as much as your eye can see...it can be inconvenient to zoom out with your feet sometimes.

Wide lenses can certainly take portraits, but ordinary people aren't used to having cameras right in front of their nose.

But you do make a good point here. The pictures you posted here are very nice indeed.

I am a gearhead but i strive to become an artist someday.

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

All lens can be a portraits lens depends on what final image u want it will be. Btw i love my 45mm 1.8 so much when i take picture for my son

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Well, if I'm not an artist, can I be a unicyclist?

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In reply to Tanngrisnir3, Apr 13, 2012

Its what you see, not what you use......

'The decisive moment'....
Always appears to happens when I'm not looking !!!!!

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Nice pics.

Santa Claus looks a little overprocessed..... to me his skin looks overly smooth and waxey. Should he have wrinkles?

I like your use of the 8mm F.E. for the beach picture. How did you get it to look straight and not the usual F.E. curve?

Thanks for posting.

BTW: I'm a gearhead, not an artist.

James Pilcher wrote:

When you pull out your camera, you may be a photographer, but not necessarily an artist. I've read so many comments in this forum about how a person doesn't need a "portrait lens" so he is not interested in the Zuiko 45mm f/1.8. We currently have a thread approaching 150 posts where many people are questioning the need or purpose of the upcoming Zuiko 75mm f/1.8. Other people discuss their desire for "landscape" lens and, thus, the Zuiko 12mm f/2.

There is no word "portrait" on the 45mm or 75mm lens. There is no word "landscape" on the 12mm. In fact, those words do not appear on any lenses from any manufacturer (I'm sure someone will point out the exception that proves the rule).

You are not an artist if you cannot look at the possibilities that a lens offers and employ them creatively. If you avoid the 45mm because you don't do portraits, then you have no clue about the limitless potential of that lens. A gearhead will call it a "portrait lens" and pull it out when people are around. An artist will look at the lens and think, "Cool!"

I post some examples here of using lenses for purposes other than what the conventional "wisdom" demands. I do not call myself an artist, but neither do I pigeon hole any of my lenses for specific uses.

The Zuiko 12mm f/2 can do portraits:

The Lumix 8mm f/3.5 fisheye is more than a "gimmick" lens:

Are you an artist or a gearhead?

Jim Pilcher
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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

When I am just taking photos for my fun, I like to use a prime (

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

of a gear-head and more creative. Yes, the 45 is a wonderful lens, EVEN for landscapes! Am I an artist? Yes, of course. We are all.

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olddigiman1 wrote:

Well said, Jim. But dude, it's DPR, of course it's gearheads
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In reply to caloymiranda, Apr 13, 2012

caloymiranda wrote:

Sometimes you need a wide lens to take in as much as your eye can see...it can be inconvenient to zoom out with your feet sometimes.

I knew a young lady many years ago whose mother was a travel photographer. She zoomed backward with her feet one day in Greece, went over a cliff, and was no more. Maybe zooms have their place.

Wide lenses can certainly take portraits, but ordinary people aren't used to having cameras right in front of their nose.

But you do make a good point here. The pictures you posted here are very nice indeed.

I am a gearhead but i strive to become an artist someday.

I do not pretend to be an artist and I'm more of a gearhead than I'd like to admit.

Jim Pilcher
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Yikes! - the dangers of walk zooming!
In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

safer to turn a dial for sure!

Next time I'm shooting with primes and 'walk zooming' backwards I'll look behind me first!

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In reply to Len_Gee, Apr 13, 2012

Len_Gee wrote:

Nice pics.

Santa Claus looks a little overprocessed..... to me his skin looks overly smooth and waxey. Should he have wrinkles?

No PP to speak of; Santa is a plastic life-size mannequin.

I like your use of the 8mm F.E. for the beach picture. How did you get it to look straight and not the usual F.E. curve?

Horizon dead center keeps it straight. No recognizable straight lines in the composition. Crop from the bottom to 16:9 in order to move the horizon below center. All of these techniques will disguise the use of a fisheye, if that is your goal. My wife wanted a photo that conveyed the vastness of this white sand beach near Sarasota, Florida. The fisheye was the perfect lens. The 12mm was too narrow!

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Why are these options exclusive?

And why are they only linked to using lenses different than their most common purpouse?

i am a creative gearhead but would not call myself an artist. I like to shoot weddings with a fisheye, portraits with a swa lens and landscapes with a tele lens ... if the situation is right. I also shoot portraits with a portrait lens, landscapes with a wa lens ... again depending on the scene or person to capture. My choice of lens does not make the resulting photo more or less artsy.

oh well, i probably simply don't understand what you are trying to tell us but ... i like the pictures.

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dcassat wrote:

of a gear-head and more creative. Yes, the 45 is a wonderful lens, EVEN for landscapes! Am I an artist? Yes, of course. We are all.

Jim Pilcher
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In reply to acahaya, Apr 13, 2012

acahaya wrote:

Why are these options exclusive?

They are not, but some photographers think they are.

And why are they only linked to using lenses different than their most common purpouse?

Showing examples of these lenses used as they are "commonly" used serves no purpose to my point.

i am a creative gearhead but would not call myself an artist. I like to shoot weddings with a fisheye, portraits with a swa lens and landscapes with a tele lens ... if the situation is right. I also shoot portraits with a portrait lens, landscapes with a wa lens ... again depending on the scene or person to capture. My choice of lens does not make the resulting photo more or less artsy.

oh well, i probably simply don't understand what you are trying to tell us but ... i like the pictures.

My point is that too many people have pre-conceived ideas about what lenses are "suitable" for what purposes. An artist more easily dispenses with these notions and tries the unconventional. Gearheads often like everything neatly organized and quantified.

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In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

You obviously have the Landscape version of the 45mm

Agree with what your saying. Landscape, portrait etc. might be generally accepted roles for those lenses, but if you let them define the lens' use you only limit yourself.

I choose a focal length based only on the look I'm trying to achieve.

I love looking at photographs from a photographer that uses a single prime for almost all their work. It's amazing how much they can do with a single focal length. Things that would have a lot of folks running for their bag of lenses.

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Are you yourself an artist at all?
In reply to James Pilcher, Apr 13, 2012

Just proposing a meek concept and three of the most banal pictures seen in a long time?

And you are the one giving artistic patents?

LOL

Art must have gone down the drain.

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