Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?

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bryanbrun
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Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?
Apr 11, 2012

I just read the GF5 preview, very disappointing.

With Panasonic falling back in the sensor wars, shouldn't Olympus step up and volunteer to share the OMD sensor technology?

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Re: Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?
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should Olympus act as a middleman for third party sensors ?
should Panasonic give up their sensor development ?

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Re: Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?
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bryanbrun wrote:

I just read the GF5 preview, very disappointing.

With Panasonic falling back in the sensor wars, shouldn't Olympus step up and volunteer to share the OMD sensor technology?

Panasonic chose the sensor for the GF5 to insure product differentiation in their own line. If they wanted to use a 16mp sensor they would have used the G3 sensor (or a model based on it) which doesn't seem all that far behind whatever is in the OM-D.

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What's wrong then .... ??
In reply to bryanbrun, Apr 11, 2012

I read the preview too, but there is no info or data regarding how the sensor image there. So what's wrong with it ... Besides, Panasonic had a 16MP in the GX-1, and another different 16MP inside the GH2 , do know even Olympus claim this is a LiveMOS sensor ( which mean this is Panasonic's )

There is no such thing as Olympus sharing the sensor with Panasonic at all.

I am not sure how you get the idea there's something wrong with the sensor inside the GF5, There is no real data / info saying that its bad , in fact with all the published data, its lookming every bit just as good or even slightly better than that of the 16MP. Which supposingly they share the basic FAB. With fewer MP, I would expect actually better quality data in fact. I see nothing wrong there ( for now ) with that sensor. And as the old Olympus saying goes, 12MP is enough ( for most anyway )

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Why on earth would they want to do that ???
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Okay, just to humor you here...

Lets pretend that Panasonic doesn't have better quality sensor such as the 16meg G3 and GX1 sensors, or the multi aspect 16meg GH2 sensor, and no doubt some improved GH3 sensor.

Lets just say that the only think they have is the GF5 low end sensor (which of course they purposely wanted for a low tier product)

Well, why exactly would Olympus, a rival company, want to give their technology away to a competitor ??

If Ford came up with a new engine tech that gets 50+ MPG would they really want to give it to their competitor, Chevy ??

Given the year Olympus shareholders have already had, last thing that would make any sense is giving away any tech edge....

Wow.....

bryanbrun wrote:

I just read the GF5 preview, very disappointing.

With Panasonic falling back in the sensor wars, shouldn't Olympus step up and volunteer to share the OMD sensor technology?

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Re: What's wrong then .... ??
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Franka T.L. wrote:

do know even Olympus claim this is a LiveMOS sensor ( which mean this is Panasonic's )

I always wonder where do people get this kind of idiotic crap, what makes them suddenly loudly declare stupid, clulueless crap like this, without ever trying to double-check, at least in Google...?

http://trademark.markify.com/trademarks/ctm/live+mos/004818571

http://www.trademarkia.com/live-mos-sensor-77560520.html

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szlevi wrote:

Franka T.L. wrote:

do know even Olympus claim this is a LiveMOS sensor ( which mean this is Panasonic's )

I always wonder where do people get this kind of idiotic crap, what makes them suddenly loudly declare stupid, clulueless crap like this, without ever trying to double-check, at least in Google...?

http://trademark.markify.com/trademarks/ctm/live+mos/004818571

http://www.trademarkia.com/live-mos-sensor-77560520.html

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Re: Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?
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Well,

did Panasonic need to make the GF5 in the first place? Is it radically different from the GF2 or the gf3? Yawn...................

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Brian Mosley wrote:

szlevi wrote:

Franka T.L. wrote:

do know even Olympus claim this is a LiveMOS sensor ( which mean this is Panasonic's )

I always wonder where do people get this kind of idiotic crap, what makes them suddenly loudly declare stupid, clulueless crap like this, without ever trying to double-check, at least in Google...?

http://trademark.markify.com/trademarks/ctm/live+mos/004818571

http://www.trademarkia.com/live-mos-sensor-77560520.html

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I don't think we should read that much gears into the labeling "Live MOS" , since both companies are using it in respective marketing description.

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Re: Live MOS... Is an Olympus marketing term...
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I'm sure they won't mind Panasonic using it also.

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Re: Why on earth would they want to do that ???
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millsart wrote:

Okay, just to humor you here...

Lets pretend that Panasonic doesn't have better quality sensor such as the 16meg G3 and GX1 sensors, or the multi aspect 16meg GH2 sensor, and no doubt some improved GH3 sensor.

Lets just say that the only think they have is the GF5 low end sensor (which of course they purposely wanted for a low tier product)

Well, why exactly would Olympus, a rival company, want to give their technology away to a competitor ??

If Ford came up with a new engine tech that gets 50+ MPG would they really want to give it to their competitor, Chevy ??

Given the year Olympus shareholders have already had, last thing that would make any sense is giving away any tech edge....

If the sensor was made by a third party, then Olympus may not be in a position to share the sensor, even if it wanted to. However, Panasonic and Olympus have shared technologies, so the idea of sharing is not as outrageous as you seem to think. Olympus has used Panasonic sensors and my understanding is that Panasonic uses the Olympus technology for dust removal from the sensor. Probably there is a lot more technology sharing beyond that.

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Panasonic are working on a sensor with global shutter...
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I wouldn't write them off just yet

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GF5 is a low-end model
In reply to bryanbrun, Apr 11, 2012

I just read the GF5 preview, very disappointing.

With Panasonic falling back in the sensor wars, shouldn't Olympus step up and volunteer to share the OMD sensor technology?

The GF5 is a low-end model so they're not using their best sensor, the GH2 and G3/GX1 sensors are perfectly good and represent a fair improvement over the old 12mp sensors.

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How could they share something they don't have, or own? (nt)
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Re: Should Olympus share the OMD sensor with Panasonic?
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Don’t you mean should Olympus share the sensor in the OMD that gives all but identical results to the GX1, oh wait Panasonic already have that sensor :).

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Its their consumer level CSC. There are lots of little improvements over the GF3 that they wanted to get to market. I'd rather see an improved low end model over the same shelf sitter year after year.

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Well,

did Panasonic need to make the GF5 in the first place? Is it radically different from the GF2 or the gf3? Yawn...................

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bryanbrun wrote:

I just read the GF5 preview, very disappointing.

With Panasonic falling back in the sensor wars, shouldn't Olympus step up and volunteer to share the OMD sensor technology?

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This 'who made the sensor' thing has created a level of buzz that just can't be bought at any price. I suspect even the marketing mavens at Olympus had no idea it would be that successful, sort of like digging in the mud for a dropped penny, and finding a diamond.

Perhaps Panasonic should bring out a couple of razor sharp lenses, and then be coy about who actually helped design and build them.

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