16-35 VR, vignetting and filter stacking

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Canyongazer
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16-35 VR, vignetting and filter stacking
Apr 9, 2012

I've been using 10 stop and 6 stop 77mm ND filters together stepped down to the 72mm thread of a 24-85 f2.8-4 Nikon for long daylight exposures. Even with the slightly oversized filters, I'm getting some vignetting at 24mm/ f9.5. A bit of reverse vignetting in Lightroom and a tiny bit of cropping usually fixes it.

I would like to go wider and am considering the 16-35 f4VR but am concerned the vignetting with the then not oversized 77mm filters will require cropping, thus negating some of the extra field of view.

And yes, I'm sure I like wider than 24....my most used wide is the 14-24 f2.8

Anyone with filter stacking experience or, perhaps, polarizer use on this lens? What do you think?

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Canyongazer wrote:

I've been using 10 stop and 6 stop 77mm ND filters together stepped down to the 72mm thread of a 24-85 f2.8-4 Nikon for long daylight exposures. Even with the slightly oversized filters, I'm getting some vignetting at 24mm/ f9.5. A bit of reverse vignetting in Lightroom and a tiny bit of cropping usually fixes it.

I would like to go wider and am considering the 16-35 f4VR but am concerned the vignetting with the then not oversized 77mm filters will require cropping, thus negating some of the extra field of view.

And yes, I'm sure I like wider than 24....my most used wide is the 14-24 f2.8

Anyone with filter stacking experience or, perhaps, polarizer use on this lens? What do you think?

DX or FF?

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In reply to Mako2011, Apr 9, 2012

Sorry, should have said: FF
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D800 is on deck.

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In reply to Canyongazer, Apr 9, 2012

I shoot it on DX so vignetting isn't a big problem even stacked once.

The best I can do for FF vignetting example is here and as you can see even without filters vignetting can be an issue unless you post process to remove. Stacked I would think there may be issues but you could always frame the subject such as to mitigate the problem. Good luck and sorry I couldn't help more.

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-16-35mm-f4-vr-review

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In reply to Mako2011, Apr 9, 2012

I'd contact Ian Bramham

http://www.dpreview.com/members/2361742005

He's got that lens and is big on ND stacking. I think he said it was alot better than the Sigma 10-20 on DX

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john Clinch wrote:

I'd contact Ian Bramham

http://www.dpreview.com/members/2361742005

He's got that lens and is big on ND stacking. I think he said it was alot better than the Sigma 10-20 on DX

May be of help but does Ian shoot FF as the OP is not using a DX body?

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In reply to Mako2011, Apr 9, 2012

What size filters are you using? The standard Cokin P holder filters are 85mm.
The next size up is 100mm - (Lee, Hitech Modular System, Cokin Z).

I used Cokin P size but have recently switched to a larger size and a better holder (or hand hold) and it helped out quite a bit.

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In reply to shakes268, Apr 9, 2012

You're probably going to need to move to a Lee holder with a wide angle adapter, with 100mm filters. I had a 2 week wait for mine which wasn't too bad, they are hard to get these days.

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In reply to john Clinch, Apr 10, 2012

Thanks for the link, John.
Ian B. seems to be using it on a D700 now so I sent him an email.

Am considering a used 20mm 2.8 Nikon as an alternative...it takes 62mm filters so ought not (I think) vignette with 77s and a step ring. From what I've read it is a good performer at f8 which is where I normally set the aperture for wide angle lens/landscape.

I really want to use the two rather good and rather expensive B+W NDs I already have rather than go the Lee slide in route.

Thanks to all for taking the trouble to reply.

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