Frustration with changing GH2 settings when using EVF....

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Isabel Cutler
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Frustration with changing GH2 settings when using EVF....
Apr 4, 2012

I have my lcd enabled and use it frequently, but sometimes when I HAVE to use the EVF I get frustrated because I have to take the camera from my eye to change a setting on the LCD because I MUST use the LCD to change that setting.

I know I can assigned settings to the back controls on the camera, but it seems to be an "either-or" situation.

How do you GH2 users deal with setting up the camera for the fastest use?...and by the way, just as with the E-PL1 in my experience, it sure takes a long time to move that focus box, if you don't select it on the lcd and use the cursors.

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Re: Frustration with changing GH2 settings when using EVF....
In reply to Isabel Cutler, Apr 4, 2012

What are you trying to set that you can't use the EVF for? I routinely changed my settings without taking my eye from the camera. Can you give more detail or specific example.

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I have my lcd enabled and use it frequently, but sometimes when I HAVE to use the EVF I get frustrated because I have to take the camera from my eye to change a setting on the LCD because I MUST use the LCD to change that setting.

I know I can assigned settings to the back controls on the camera, but it seems to be an "either-or" situation.

How do you GH2 users deal with setting up the camera for the fastest use?...and by the way, just as with the E-PL1 in my experience, it sure takes a long time to move that focus box, if you don't select it on the lcd and use the cursors.

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Re: Frustration with changing GH2 settings when using EVF....
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I can't think of any time I've had to use the LCD to change settings. Between the hard buttons, custom buttons, and dials I can change ISO, exposure, exposure compensation, WB, focus area, AF mode, flash compensation, etc....

TEBnewyork wrote:

What are you trying to set that you can't use the EVF for? I routinely changed my settings without taking my eye from the camera. Can you give more detail or specific example.

Isabel Cutler wrote:

I have my lcd enabled and use it frequently, but sometimes when I HAVE to use the EVF I get frustrated because I have to take the camera from my eye to change a setting on the LCD because I MUST use the LCD to change that setting.

I know I can assigned settings to the back controls on the camera, but it seems to be an "either-or" situation.

How do you GH2 users deal with setting up the camera for the fastest use?...and by the way, just as with the E-PL1 in my experience, it sure takes a long time to move that focus box, if you don't select it on the lcd and use the cursors.

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ISO, for example...
In reply to TEBnewyork, Apr 4, 2012

There's a button marked ISO on the back but when the lcd is active it has a different function - direct focus area on.

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Can you share your custom settings? (nt)
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Re: ISO, for example...
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If it helps, you can cut Direct Focus Area off in the menus.
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After turning Direct Focus Area off, as suggested, you can move the focus point without using the LCD by holding in the Quick Menu button (for about 1 second) until you see the focus area in yellow with the directional arrows - then use the 4 direction buttons to move and the control wheel to size it. This setup allows you to access the WB and ISO function keys easily in normal shooting.

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In reply to Isabel Cutler, Apr 4, 2012

IF (and that is a big if) I understand what you are saying, I would move the camera until the item I want to focus on is within the focus box (that I usually keep in the center), halfpress, and move it back to the composition I like. Faster than moving a focus point anytime.

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Isabel Cutler wrote:

There's a button marked ISO on the back but when the lcd is active it has a different function - direct focus area on.

Huh? Not on my GH2. The ISO button changes ISO and never anything else.

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Re: Thanks...I'll have to give that a try! (nt)
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thank you, Ging (nt)
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I agree - often use this method...
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half press to lock focus and then recompose - but in certain situations, such as macro, it's better to move the focus point.

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rrockley wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

There's a button marked ISO on the back but when the lcd is active it has a different function - direct focus area on.

Huh? Not on my GH2. The ISO button changes ISO and never anything else.

It only displays the ISO change screen if "Direct Focus Area" in the menus is OFF. With that setting ON, the ISO button becomes one of the 4-way controllers and moves the focus box around the screen. Hence, the suggestion to turn the setting OFF (as you already must have it) and use the long press on the Quick Menu button (or the touchscreen) to activate the focus area, if you need to.

By the way, as this is sometimes asked, when moving the focus box around, pressing the Delete/DOF Preview button will immediately snap it back to the centre.

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thanks for the hint about the delete button! (nt)
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Thanks all....
In reply to Isabel Cutler, Apr 4, 2012

MUCH BETTER with the Direct Focus turned off!

I can still move the focus box around on the lcd with my finger, but I can make changes from the back buttons now instead of being locked into them working as cursors to move the focus box.

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In reply to Isabel Cutler, Apr 4, 2012

You can still use cursors to move the focus box with Direct Focus Area turned off. Hold the quick menu button a little longer and I had the left button on the 4 way set to be able to make the change.

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MUCH BETTER with the Direct Focus turned off!

I can still move the focus box around on the lcd with my finger, but I can make changes from the back buttons now instead of being locked into them working as cursors to move the focus box.

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Re: Frustration with changing GH2 settings when using EVF....
In reply to Isabel Cutler, Apr 4, 2012

Press and hold qmenu, the focus point comes up and can be moved with the arrow keys.

The GH2 is murder to set up, but it can be done. There are lots of threads... It has taken me six months.

What kills it for me is the single control wheel. Apart from that I have all the annoyances sorted.
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Re: Yes...thank you...
In reply to TEBnewyork, Apr 4, 2012

Perhaps not as quick as touching the lcd, but I think I prefer being able to keep the back closed and protected and working with the EVF.

It's nice, however, to have the lcd tools available when I choose to use them, just by enabling the direct focus.

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Sorry, when I posted that, DPR showed no replies! Has anyone mentioned the trash button re-sets the focus point?

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Press and hold qmenu, the focus point comes up and can be moved with the arrow keys.

The GH2 is murder to set up, but it can be done. There are lots of threads... It has taken me six months.

What kills it for me is the single control wheel. Apart from that I have all the annoyances sorted.
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In reply to Louis_Dobson, Apr 4, 2012

I'm feeling much better about the GH2 ever since I shot off that direct focus button.

...and that control wheel, since you brought it up - I'm not crazy about the fact that half the time I press it in when all I want to do is turn it...and also in the process manage to also press in the display button and lose my histogram.

Now if I could only get the magic jpg color out of it like I get out of my e-pl1 I would be very happy.

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