D3s v X-Pro 1 comparison

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MPA1
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D3s v X-Pro 1 comparison
Mar 25, 2012

Here are two JPEG files.

Both OOC, AWB, f2, ISO 250. The Nikon is shot on a D3s set to Vivid and the Fuji on an X-Pro 1 set to Velvia.

The Nikon was using a 50mm f1.4 D and the Fuji a Fujinon 35mm f1.4

Both are available light only and within a few minutes of on another. They are not perfectly aligned - sorry - because my tripods are all set up to use only QR fittings and I do not yet have a QR plate for the XP1. I used a monopod braced against the front of the table, so apologies for the not quite exact match.

Both files are Large Fine and the file ending in 173 is the Fuji one.

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In reply to MPA1, Mar 25, 2012

Okay, I picked my favorite and looked to see what I picked.

I'm going to wait awhile before I say which one I liked.

Thank you for posting this.

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In reply to jzzmusician, Mar 25, 2012

I'll tell you what, they are seriously not that easy to tell apart, are they?!

jzzmusician wrote:

Okay, I picked my favorite and looked to see what I picked.

I'm going to wait awhile before I say which one I liked.

Thank you for posting this.

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In reply to MPA1, Mar 25, 2012

Darn close, at least at that size. I kind of prefer the Fuji shot because of the greater tonal range in the background.

DOF difference quite obvious too.

But yes - very very close.
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In reply to MPA1, Mar 25, 2012

Hi.

The colour looks far more pleasing and realistic in the Fuji example. Think "honey". I noticed the same difference between my D90 and x100.

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In reply to MPA1, Mar 26, 2012

Hi there

I looked at both and was disappointed that I preferred the Nikon and then realized that I had assumed your order and actually had picked the Fuji

That said, they are both excellent and we are in the weeds on preference

Rob

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What are you comparing?

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In reply to Robert Holloway, Mar 26, 2012

Quite obviously they are very different beasts and each camera has strengths and weaknesses in terms of the overall package.

But on IQ and price, I would say Fuji have pulled off a small miracle myself. There's around NZ$5,000 difference in the price of the two setups!

Robert Holloway wrote:

Hi there

I looked at both and was disappointed that I preferred the Nikon and then realized that I had assumed your order and actually had picked the Fuji

That said, they are both excellent and we are in the weeds on preference

Rob

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In reply to MPA1, Mar 26, 2012

The colour appears to be better on the Fuji.

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In reply to oking23, Mar 26, 2012

WoW I would love to see this same setup with ISO 2500 if you have time.

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In reply to rdub, Mar 26, 2012

Fuji has always distinguished itself by excellents colors and all of their latest cameras have the fuji trait on them so it doesn't come as a surprise that the colors on the fuji seem with a richer tonal balance. That being said what this comparison talks about is the cameras JPG engines . Professional Cameras per se are design from the get go to give you very neutral results by default and that is exactly what we are seeing here in this comparison .

It would have been interesting to see what the cameras could do with raw files which is the real creme de la creme of cameras . Thanks alot for the trouble of doing this comparison.

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I agree and as soon as I have a RAW converter for Apple, I'll do just that!

Ignoring that though it shows that the Fujinon lens is extremely good.

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Fuji has always distinguished itself by excellents colors and all of their latest cameras have the fuji trait on them so it doesn't come as a surprise that the colors on the fuji seem with a richer tonal balance. That being said what this comparison talks about is the cameras JPG engines . Professional Cameras per se are design from the get go to give you very neutral results by default and that is exactly what we are seeing here in this comparison .

It would have been interesting to see what the cameras could do with raw files which is the real creme de la creme of cameras . Thanks alot for the trouble of doing this comparison.

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In reply to MPA1, Mar 26, 2012

Thank you for doing this test

I did a similar test with the Canon 5D MK II with both cameras in camera defaults JPEG. But I shot the Fuji at f/1.4 and the Canon at f/1.8 to compensate for the shallower DOF on the full frame.

Did you also happen to test them out against each other in that setting? And you could rest the cameras on the same spot on a table (maybe on top of a book if you need more height) to cut out the tripod fiddling.

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The thing I keep noticing is how aggressive the highlights are in the Fuji image.

Everything else, though, is amazingly close and/or competitive.

Very impressive coming from an APS-C sensor.
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In reply to MPA1, Mar 26, 2012

Fuji needs 1/250 and nikon 1/640 to expose equally the same scene.
Maybe fuji were a bit too optimist setting ISO?

This will also explain their "excellent" high ISO results. Olympus took the same route with om-d.
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This will also explain their "excellent" high ISO results. Olympus took the same route with om-d.
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I don't know what "route" you speak of, but if there's no IQ trade-off with that approach, does it matter?

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In reply to ohmydentist, Mar 26, 2012

It is possible that Fuji sets their ISO lower than what is displayed.

So if you're using A mode at ISO6400, Fuji might actually set the sensor to ISO3200 and use a slower shutter speed. In a well-lit studio test, you wont notice this, you will just go "woah my camera kicks ass". In dim lighting, you will notice the shutter being too slow and just switch to 12800, and still go "woah clean 12800!!".

Notice I'm just explaining the possible theory and not asserting anything. More tests need to be carried out.

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This will also explain their "excellent" high ISO results. Olympus took the same route with om-d.
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