New: Carl Zeiss 15mm f/2.8

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oscarvdvelde
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New: Carl Zeiss 15mm f/2.8
Mar 16, 2012

DPreview hasn't published the news yet, but Zeiss did announce their new 15mm f2.8 with built-in hood and a filter thread of 95mm.

https://www.facebook.com/carlzeisslenses
http://blogs.zeiss.com/photo/en/?p=1520

and the first images with it:

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/03/16/review-zeiss-15mm-f2-8-canon-ef-mount/

It is probably expensive.
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Re: New: Carl Zeiss 15mm f/2.8
In reply to oscarvdvelde, Mar 16, 2012

Looks like a magnificent lens--what you would expect from Zeiss. But it sure looks like it experiences massive vignetting at f/2.8.

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In reply to hotdog321, Mar 16, 2012

Vignetting seems Zeiss' weakness in their wide angles.

Note that http://www.thephoblographer.com mentions the price....

"If you’re out there making money from your landscapes and architecture, then I want to tell you to go search around the internet for pre-orders (ships in May), get your credit card in hand, and purchase this lens for $2,948.00"

All of a sudden it feels even better to own my Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 with low vignetting, AF, and good sharpness at 16mm f/2.8 at less than 1/3rd the price.

Or consider a Samyang 14mm f/2.8 which does have strong distortion and vignetting but at only 1/7th of the Zeiss price. Or a EF 14mm f/2.8L II at about 2/3rds of that price with a 5 cm closer focusing distance and autofocus. Or a Nikon 14-24mm which gives you more focal lengths and AF for free.
If I wanted to spend this kind of money I'd rather get a Canon TS-E 17mm.
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In reply to oscarvdvelde, Mar 16, 2012

Me too! That 17 looks pretty sweet.

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In reply to oscarvdvelde, Mar 17, 2012

typical Zeiss colors, and really sharp in the corners.

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2012/20120316_2-Zeiss15Distagon-samples.html

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In reply to Mike K, Mar 17, 2012

Mike K wrote:

typical Zeiss colors, and really sharp in the corners.

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2012/20120316_2-Zeiss15Distagon-samples.html

Beautiful. I really like diglloyd.com, it's one of the very few lens reviewers who actually present wonderful photographs instead of bookshelves!

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lenstip.com sample images
In reply to Mike K, Apr 2, 2012

hmm ... the sample images at lenstip look far from convincing at the wider apertures, even f/5.6 has a very blurry border. From first impression worse than the 10x cheaper Samyang 2.8/14. Let's hope for Zeiss that lenstip got a 'bad copy' ...

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In reply to technic, Apr 2, 2012

Something has to be wrong with their lens....or 5D III. This is a real outlier from the other samples I've seen. The shots in Lloyd Chambers review (requires subscription) are gorgeous. Here are a few more that don't look anything like the lenstip samples.

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873
http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/slr/15mm-f28.htm

Here's a review in Spanish, doesn't have samples but has a resolution chart.

http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/carl-zeiss-distagon-t-15-mm-f-2-8-rendimiento.html

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In reply to Tim Devine, Apr 3, 2012

I kept wanting Rockwell to compare it to a 17TSE. That's the gold standard Canon UWA, not the 14.

Anyway, I am jazzed by this lens, but wow, what a price.

Tim Devine wrote:

Something has to be wrong with their lens....or 5D III. This is a real outlier from the other samples I've seen. The shots in Lloyd Chambers review (requires subscription) are gorgeous. Here are a few more that don't look anything like the lenstip samples.

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873
http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/slr/15mm-f28.htm

Here's a review in Spanish, doesn't have samples but has a resolution chart.

http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/carl-zeiss-distagon-t-15-mm-f-2-8-rendimiento.html

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In reply to Ben_Egbert, Apr 3, 2012

Ken Rockwell????

You're gotta be kidding!!

Mr. Rockwell has some nice ideas. I truly respect hi efforts to maintain the site and his family business (that he always states at the end of the blog)

His conclusions are most of the time very much emotional and rather seldom technically correct. This style works pretty well with Top Gear and cars where nobody expects a real test but with lenses and other photo gear I need a rigorous analyses and tests the proof mtf curves and/or test charts.

So of you really want to know that the lenses can do please use lens tip.co. photo zone.de or the-digital-image.com or slrgear.com

I own the TS-E 17 and Ken's comment that Canon has ho sharp wide angle lens is truly wrong - Canon is the only company that has a ultra wide angle tilt and shift lens which absolutely stand out - almost no distortion and superb sharpness across the frame - even fully shifted!

I normal stitch four frames fully shifted and get a virtual 11 mm lens on FF - the images are tack sharp till the end of the image circle - the only reason to stay with Canon these days (unfortunately)

So if you are looking for the ultimate ultra wide angle lens go for the maybe best UWA on this planet - the TS-E 17.

And please don't trust Mr. Rockwell - his assumptions and conclusions are most of the time best case funny - he seriously stated, that analog film is better then digital - that might have been true four years ago but today the 5D II blows even medium and large format film away - very sad indeed but proven by many sources including myself

Here are some shots with the TS-E 17 fully shifted (a bit bigger then stamp sized):

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I kept wanting Rockwell to compare it to a 17TSE. That's the gold standard Canon UWA, not the 14.

Anyway, I am jazzed by this lens, but wow, what a price.

Tim Devine wrote:

Something has to be wrong with their lens....or 5D III. This is a real outlier from the other samples I've seen. The shots in Lloyd Chambers review (requires subscription) are gorgeous. Here are a few more that don't look anything like the lenstip samples.

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873
http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/slr/15mm-f28.htm

Here's a review in Spanish, doesn't have samples but has a resolution chart.

http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/carl-zeiss-distagon-t-15-mm-f-2-8-rendimiento.html

-Tim

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In reply to joger, Apr 3, 2012

I have the 17TSE and also the 24TSE which is no slouch. Did you see my post about a 14TSE? I also linked your trick for stitching, which I have already tried and like if tilt is not required for DOF.

joger wrote:
Ken Rockwell????

You're gotta be kidding!!

Mr. Rockwell has some nice ideas. I truly respect hi efforts to maintain the site and his family business (that he always states at the end of the blog)

His conclusions are most of the time very much emotional and rather seldom technically correct. This style works pretty well with Top Gear and cars where nobody expects a real test but with lenses and other photo gear I need a rigorous analyses and tests the proof mtf curves and/or test charts.

So of you really want to know that the lenses can do please use lens tip.co. photo zone.de or the-digital-image.com or slrgear.com

I own the TS-E 17 and Ken's comment that Canon has ho sharp wide angle lens is truly wrong - Canon is the only company that has a ultra wide angle tilt and shift lens which absolutely stand out - almost no distortion and superb sharpness across the frame - even fully shifted!

I normal stitch four frames fully shifted and get a virtual 11 mm lens on FF - the images are tack sharp till the end of the image circle - the only reason to stay with Canon these days (unfortunately)

So if you are looking for the ultimate ultra wide angle lens go for the maybe best UWA on this planet - the TS-E 17.

And please don't trust Mr. Rockwell - his assumptions and conclusions are most of the time best case funny - he seriously stated, that analog film is better then digital - that might have been true four years ago but today the 5D II blows even medium and large format film away - very sad indeed but proven by many sources including myself

Here are some shots with the TS-E 17 fully shifted (a bit bigger then stamp sized):

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I kept wanting Rockwell to compare it to a 17TSE. That's the gold standard Canon UWA, not the 14.

Anyway, I am jazzed by this lens, but wow, what a price.

Tim Devine wrote:

Something has to be wrong with their lens....or 5D III. This is a real outlier from the other samples I've seen. The shots in Lloyd Chambers review (requires subscription) are gorgeous. Here are a few more that don't look anything like the lenstip samples.

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873
http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/slr/15mm-f28.htm

Here's a review in Spanish, doesn't have samples but has a resolution chart.

http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/carl-zeiss-distagon-t-15-mm-f-2-8-rendimiento.html

-Tim

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In reply to Ben_Egbert, Apr 3, 2012

Well, mine's on order. I've never used the 17TSE (have used the 24TSE II though) but I know it's a great lens. I'm slowly building a nice collection.

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I kept wanting Rockwell to compare it to a 17TSE. That's the gold standard Canon UWA, not the 14.

Anyway, I am jazzed by this lens, but wow, what a price.

Tim Devine wrote:

Something has to be wrong with their lens....or 5D III. This is a real outlier from the other samples I've seen. The shots in Lloyd Chambers review (requires subscription) are gorgeous. Here are a few more that don't look anything like the lenstip samples.

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873
http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/slr/15mm-f28.htm

Here's a review in Spanish, doesn't have samples but has a resolution chart.

http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/carl-zeiss-distagon-t-15-mm-f-2-8-rendimiento.html

-Tim

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In reply to Ben_Egbert, Apr 4, 2012

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I kept wanting Rockwell to compare it to a 17TSE. That's the gold standard Canon UWA, not the 14.

Me too love to see the comparison between the TSE 17 and the new Zeiss 15, but can we request to see that from some other reviewer instead please? :)...... I will see how much longer i can resist to go get one myself to play with it and do the comparison myself against my other UWA such as the 14-24G, Samyang 14 and TSE 17 and Zeiss 21, I like both of my TSE 17 and TSe 24II, but I love my Zeiss 21 even more when it comes to color and local contrast, and this new Zeiss 15 looks just as impressive as the 21.

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In reply to Ben_Egbert, Apr 4, 2012

Not that I have anything against the 14 TSE idea, but like that one the Zeiss is again without filter thread and quite heavy. We have so many special lenses but no regular ones in UWA range. I wish Canon made sharp light weight 20/2.8 and 17/3.5 without bulging front element. I guess the market for these is quite small and they have to be made special/expensive.

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I have the 17TSE and also the 24TSE which is no slouch. Did you see my post about a 14TSE? I also linked your trick for stitching, which I have already tried and like if tilt is not required for DOF.

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In reply to oscarvdvelde, Apr 4, 2012

I have to say I am a Zeiss fan and have more than 40 of varies Zeiss lenses, but for this one, I will simply pass, Canon TS-E 17/4L is simply more flexible in many ways.

oscarvdvelde wrote:

DPreview hasn't published the news yet, but Zeiss did announce their new 15mm f2.8 with built-in hood and a filter thread of 95mm.

https://www.facebook.com/carlzeisslenses
http://blogs.zeiss.com/photo/en/?p=1520

and the first images with it:

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/03/16/review-zeiss-15mm-f2-8-canon-ef-mount/

It is probably expensive.
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