nx20?

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Ihlkyu
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nx20?
Mar 15, 2012

nx20 from photorumors.com

Slightly larger than the NX11
20.3MP APS-C size CMOS sensor
Built-in Wi-Fi for direct image upload
Improved speed and ISO
ISO range: 100-12800
8fps
max shutter speed: 1/6000
i-Function 2.0
1080p Full HD video capability (separate video recording button)
3.0-inch VGA AMOLED screen tilt
Built-in flash and electronic viewfinder

http://photorumors.com/2012/03/15/this-is-the-samsung-nx20-mirrorless-camera/

hope this is true~

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In reply to Ihlkyu, Mar 16, 2012

seems realistic enough. Hope its announced/released soon.

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In reply to Ihlkyu, Mar 16, 2012

Looks like a nice "DSLR" camera.

The whole reason I bought into a mirrorless system was to escape those ugly beasts.. lol :/

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In reply to Ihlkyu, Mar 16, 2012

How long is the upload time of a full size RAW image file via WiFi?

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In reply to whtchocla7e, Mar 16, 2012

whtchocla7e wrote:

Looks like a nice "DSLR" camera.

The whole reason I bought into a mirrorless system was to escape those ugly beasts.. lol :/

My thoughts exactly. Then again, this is the sucessor to the NX 5/10/11... all mini-DSLR-styled cameras.

I'll just keep shooting with my NX100, till either samsung introduces a sucessor worth upgrading or somebody else does, in the latter case I'll jump ship. Pentax almost did it with the K-01 (I mostly use manual pentax lenses), but no EVF option

Anyways, great news if this is a real product. Would mean Samsung is still interested in the NX line.

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In reply to whtchocla7e, Mar 16, 2012

looks good. spec sounds nice, i felt the nx200 was a bit over priced. So if they get the pricing right this could be a winner

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kona_moon wrote:

How long is the upload time of a full size RAW image file via WiFi?

The practical speed of WiFi networks is around 4 or 5 MB/s.
Uncompressed 20 MP Raws should be around 30 to 35 MB, I believe.

So, hopefully less than 10s

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In reply to Ihlkyu, Mar 16, 2012

EVF is a big deal, yet its specs are, dubiously, missing. Poor EVF is the biggest letdown of NX10/11, imho. They’d better give the new NX a decent one.
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In reply to maple, Mar 16, 2012

I really like what I see and two things are interesting.
-a little thicker grip
-a little thicker body

Only I am waiting to confirm that body is a little bigger than NX10/11 and the EVF is really good, I will be one of the owner of that camera...
I that way the new big lenses would make sense.
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whtchocla7e wrote:

Looks like a nice "DSLR" camera.

The whole reason I bought into a mirrorless system was to escape those ugly beasts.. lol :/

And that is why they have the NX200.

I much prefer the style of the NX11 to the NX200 (I have both), especially with the larger lenses (85mm f/1.4, 60mm f/2.8, etc).

I like the NX200 too, but the grip is too small making it awkward to hold with the larger lenses attached.

A lot of people like the look of the Sony NEX cameras for the reason they don't look like SLR cameras, but I personally think they are a bit ugly. A larger lens just looks better with a prism housing that extends above the height of the lens. I really like the NEX cameras with the small range finder lenses, but with the huge zooms they are pretty crazy and unwieldy.

Edit: The bottom line is the NX11 is borderline too small for the 85mm f/1.4, and a slightly larger NX20 would be really nice for that lens and some of the other lenses they had on the rumored road map. The whole reason of having both the NX200 and NX20 series is that people could choose between the two, compact slender body without the typical camera features and a nice body to balance the larger lenses and appeal to DSLR users more (remember, a lot of people actually like the look of the DSLR and want people to think they have one).

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pretty sad design-wise if this is in fact what is to look like. I overcame that ugliness with the NX10, but, can I do it again? Maybe. If it has a kick a** viewfinder and that articulating LCD.

I am tuned in for more info...
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if the picture is truly is the NX20, I'm quite disappointed about retaining the hump. it's the only thing that made the camera less desirable.

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I hope they enable live hdmi out for external monitors!
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Ariston wrote:

if the picture is truly is the NX20, I'm quite disappointed about retaining the hump. it's the only thing that made the camera less desirable.

See, I actually like the hump, the shape of it mirrors the shape of the lens. What I don't like about the NX200 is the flat top, it doesn't look like a camera. Thankfully, they make both so they appeal to multiple people

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couple more pics on Korean site

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What's hysterical is what the utility of the wifi will be. SRW files are ludicrously large and jpegs OOC are likely not going to be much nicer than the ones from the NX200. Not to mention slow hardware. I'm going to enjoy seeing what they've messed up here. I'm thinking battery life will take a huge hit, too. There's going to be something dumb, such as them saying that we should plug the cam in during WIFI transfer because of accelerated energy consumption when using the WIFI.

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snake_b wrote:

What's hysterical is what the utility of the wifi will be. SRW files are ludicrously large and jpegs OOC are likely not going to be much nicer than the ones from the NX200. Not to mention slow hardware. I'm going to enjoy seeing what they've messed up here. I'm thinking battery life will take a huge hit, too. There's going to be something dumb, such as them saying that we should plug the cam in during WIFI transfer because of accelerated energy consumption when using the WIFI.

and what are you basing these assumptions off of? actual facts or just your own ludicrous and perpetual hate for samsung?

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viking79 wrote:

whtchocla7e wrote:

Looks like a nice "DSLR" camera.

The whole reason I bought into a mirrorless system was to escape those ugly beasts.. lol :/

And that is why they have the NX200.

I much prefer the style of the NX11 to the NX200 (I have both), especially with the larger lenses (85mm f/1.4, 60mm f/2.8, etc).

I like the NX200 too, but the grip is too small making it awkward to hold with the larger lenses attached.

A lot of people like the look of the Sony NEX cameras for the reason they don't look like SLR cameras, but I personally think they are a bit ugly. A larger lens just looks better with a prism housing that extends above the height of the lens. I really like the NEX cameras with the small range finder lenses, but with the huge zooms they are pretty crazy and unwieldy.

Edit: The bottom line is the NX11 is borderline too small for the 85mm f/1.4, and a slightly larger NX20 would be really nice for that lens and some of the other lenses they had on the rumored road map. The whole reason of having both the NX200 and NX20 series is that people could choose between the two, compact slender body without the typical camera features and a nice body to balance the larger lenses and appeal to DSLR users more (remember, a lot of people actually like the look of the DSLR and want people to think they have one).

Eric

Eric, I think exactly the same. While I sometimes take pictures with NX100, I much prefer my NX10/11 and still have not bought the NX200 despite its capability of producing excellent picture quality. It really is great that there is the choice, it is horses for courses.
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In reply to jj74e, Mar 16, 2012

Now that is exactly what I had hoped for! If the specification is true, I will be really happy - that is until they announce the price, I hope they are not overoptimistic!

I like the design very much, nice upgrade from NX10/NX11!

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I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed with the look. Not sure if the whole Konica-based retro design was just a rumor, but that's not it. First thoughts were that it looks like an deformed NX10, although I guess it looks a bit modern/upscaled compared to the original NX10. I imagine it will be received like the nX10- not the most attractive design, but great ergonomics to compensate.

I'm glad to see that we finally have an articulated screen, and the higher FPS rate/faster max. shutter speed indicates to me that they have improved the hardware, so the buffer problem of the NX200 is probably somewhat alleviated (or hopefully they put back in compressed RAWs like in the NX10/11/100).

The extra buttons and extra dial on the back are a welcome addition, and despite the dislike for the design, they seem to have attempted to preserve the ergonomics of the NX10 that everybody loved while providing a thicker grip.

The fact that they've bothered to inscribe "Full HD" on the camera body indicates that maybe they've improved the video; plus, the side door for connections seems larger, so maybe there are audio monitoring jacks/mic jack input connections or something more than what current NX cameras offer:

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=samsung_forum&page=1&divpage=37&ss=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=197579

Assuming Samsung was smart and improved the EVF, the battery life is at least as good as the current NX10, the AF performance and write speeds are improved, and they give more NR options (or fixed the massive smearing at higher ISOs), I think this will be a great camera. That's a lot of ifs, but they're all sensible improvements that Samsung hopefully jumped on, unless they wanted to just release the NX200 again but with a built-in EVF. Wi-fi doesn't interest me; I'd rather see that body space be used for something else unless they have smart plans about it other than simple uploading features. Hopefully price is under $1000

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