One HDR from the canyon and a sunset...

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OdzBodkinz
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One HDR from the canyon and a sunset...
Mar 8, 2012

Bracketed 7 exposures +-1 EV apart for this shot at Hopi Point on the South rim of the Grand Canyon while I waited for the Sun to do this....

Two extremes of my 14-45 and 45-175mm travel kit.

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Re: One HDR from the canyon and a sunset...
In reply to OdzBodkinz, Mar 8, 2012

They look great...though the snow is a little distracting.
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Re: One HDR from the canyon and a sunset...
In reply to MAubrey, Mar 8, 2012

great pic. thank you.

i must say, that "distracting" comment is one of the most ridiculous things i have read on this board.... and that is saying quite a bit.

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In reply to jaylive, Mar 8, 2012

Uhm...right...okay...sure...

The bright white pulls my attention from the center of the picture and I find myself looking at the lower corner instead of the vista. I'm sorry that you find that ridiculous...I'm just being honest...I still like the picture. It's gorgeous.

jaylive wrote:

great pic. thank you.

i must say, that "distracting" comment is one of the most ridiculous things i have read on this board.... and that is saying quite a bit.

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Re: One HDR from the canyon and a sunset...
In reply to OdzBodkinz, Mar 8, 2012

What's not to like?

Superb treatment.

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A fine pair! That's the kind of HDR I like.
I hope you spent at least a few minutes on Bright Angel Trail.
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love the first one, you should have it printed out and hang on the wall. nt
In reply to OdzBodkinz, Mar 8, 2012

love the first one, you should have it printed out and hang on the wall. nt

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I think you totaly blew the first one
In reply to OdzBodkinz, Mar 8, 2012

This is exactly the kind of image that gives HDR a bad name. It's like you took a perfectly good landscape and made it completely flat and uninteresting just for the sake of doing HDR. The sky is way too dark and the image as a whole is painfully devoid of contrast. There is also an obvious blue color cast. Seven exposures was six too many. When I opened it in ACR, two thirds of the histogram was completely empty. I made a valiant attempt to rescue it from the low resolution image you posted, this is what the image should have looked like:

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In reply to IcyVeins, Mar 8, 2012

While yours may have more "DR" and contrast, and is a nice pic, To be honest I think the OP's image looks much better and more natural, but then I just dont like the "HDR" look i guess, so personal taste.

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MAubrey wrote:

The bright white pulls my attention from the center of the picture and I find myself looking at the lower corner instead of the vista.

You are right. The picture would be strengthened by de-emphasizing the lower left (better left in shadow to compliment the rest of the composition)

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Re: I think you totaly blew the first one
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Totally agree, this image is a lot better. The black clouds in the original one and the typical HDR tonal distortions were rather unpleasant. HDR images only look good when nobody can notice it's an HDR.

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This is exactly the kind of image that gives HDR a bad name. It's like you took a perfectly good landscape and made it completely flat and uninteresting just for the sake of doing HDR. The sky is way too dark and the image as a whole is painfully devoid of contrast. There is also an obvious blue color cast. Seven exposures was six too many. When I opened it in ACR, two thirds of the histogram was completely empty. I made a valiant attempt to rescue it from the low resolution image you posted, this is what the image should have looked like:

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Icyveins,

The op's may be a bit flat, but your's is too harsh. You're also acting like a douche. You criticism may have been constructive (and opinionated, but thats fine), but you worded it in the douchiest way possible.

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Taking someone's jpeg and doing a hack job to boost your own ego is pretty low.

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Your version looks more natural actually, a bit too strongly pushed for my taste, but still. When sky is same brightness or even less bright than landscape itself feels really weird. Diffused reflection can't be brighter or same as source of light, right?

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This is exactly the kind of image that gives HDR a bad name. It's like you took a perfectly good landscape and made it completely flat and uninteresting just for the sake of doing HDR. The sky is way too dark and the image as a whole is painfully devoid of contrast. There is also an obvious blue color cast. Seven exposures was six too many. When I opened it in ACR, two thirds of the histogram was completely empty. I made a valiant attempt to rescue it from the low resolution image you posted, this is what the image should have looked like:

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Re: I think you totaly blew the first one
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That isn't how I wanted it to look.
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Re: I think you totaly knocked out the first one!!!! Breathtaking capture...
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OdzBodkinz wrote:

That isn't how I wanted it to look.

Totally agree with your rendition of what the Grand Canyon actually looks like...the OP's is much better in my eyes and the second PP by IcyVeins is terrible looking to me?...But what do I know....

Been to the Grand Canyon and believe me the first photo is as real as it gets...

The second by IcyVeins anyone can tell is a total mock up...IF you have been to the Grand Canyon previously...

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I would be interested in seeing the +0 exposure file by itself
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OdzBodkinz - Could you post that single exposure as well?

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Chez Wimpy wrote:

MAubrey wrote:

The bright white pulls my attention from the center of the picture and I find myself looking at the lower corner instead of the vista.

You are right. The picture would be strengthened by de-emphasizing the lower left (better left in shadow to compliment the rest of the composition)

Maybe so, but the OP obviously wanted to capture the point in the foreground, and it really does snow there. Even in shadow, the snow is pretty bright against the rock. My guess is he can't return to Grand Canyon on a whim, when the weather is more agreeable for snow-free shooting. I see nothing wrong with the photo.
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In reply to OdzBodkinz, Mar 8, 2012

The original is lovely and much better than the posted edit.

Two quibbles:

I agree that the snow distracting, as the eye is naturally drawn to the brightest part of the picture. I would have either cropped the left or darkened the snow. Given the cloud cover (especially the dark undersides), the lower left could easily be in shadow.

I tend (perhaps unfairly) to associate skies that have both visible blue and dark clouds with HDR. Even Trey Ratcliff says "If you are going to make some nice HDR “dark clouds,” make sure there is no blue sky also in the scene."
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Re: I would be interested in seeing the +0 exposure file by itself
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Yes. Will post this evening when I get home.
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