4 more years of banding posts :(

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EOSHQ
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4 more years of banding posts :(
Mar 6, 2012

Sadly... fill light 100

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In reply to EOSHQ, Mar 6, 2012

Gives everyone something to do.

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This is a worst case scenario. I have never wanted to add fill light of 100, but obviously there are people who would like to do that.

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I'd say it gives a few people something to do. Those obsessed with the idea of 4 stop shadow lifts in post.

Don't get me wrong as I'm not happy that early indications are the 5D3 still has a low ISO banding issue but only from the standpoint of "what has Canon been doing for the last 3 years" and not from a "oh no, this limits what I can do with the camera" concern.

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Gives everyone something to do.

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Re: 4 more years of banding posts :(
In reply to rwbaron, Mar 6, 2012

It's not only about shadow lifting.

Those nasty lines are indication of wrong column AD calibration which will show up in any heavy postprocessing, not only shadow lifting. El cheapo electronics or wrongly implemented CMOS readout.

CANON - shame on you again

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I'd say it gives a few people something to do. Those obsessed with the idea of 4 stop shadow lifts in post.

Don't get me wrong as I'm not happy that early indications are the 5D3 still has a low ISO banding issue but only from the standpoint of "what has Canon been doing for the last 3 years" and not from a "oh no, this limits what I can do with the camera" concern.

Bob

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Gives everyone something to do.

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How about better technique. Solved. NT
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This image looks better....
In reply to EOSHQ, Mar 6, 2012

...than the sample images from Canon site.

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How about switching brand. Solved. +T
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In landscape photography, clean shadows with the ability to lift them up in post to reveal details (as opposed to banding/noise) makes up for much of the difference between a good and a less useful camera. In that sense, the K-5, D7000 etc. are a lot better than any of the 5D (though with the original 12.8 MP still being better than the Mk. II and, as it seems, the Mk. III).

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Re: How about better technique. Solved. NT
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+1 [nt]
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Hear hear!
In reply to John Sheehy, Mar 6, 2012

The uncomfortable (to some) fact is that the competition does this better.

And if this was no issue at all, why did Canon lose horizontal patterning? Coincidence? I think not.

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shhh...
In reply to Jakub Kubica, Mar 6, 2012

Jakub Kubica wrote:

It's not only about shadow lifting.

Those nasty lines are indication of wrong column AD calibration which will show up in any heavy postprocessing, not only shadow lifting. El cheapo electronics or wrongly implemented CMOS readout.

CANON - shame on you again

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Re: 4 more years of banding posts :(
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EOSHQ wrote:

Sadly... fill light 100

Haha aw god that is terrible for ISO 100. Nice banding. Enjoy your canon's!
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Re: How about better technique. Solved. NT
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Tool is the right word lol

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Is that a Fuji in the back? nt
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Until serial production cameras in the market.
I will do the test myself by bringing my memory card to a local store.

Until then I just Wait and See.

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is that Canon has chosen that butt-ugly gray color for the 600EX. What on earth were they thinking! I sure hope it is available in black.
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Re: 4 more years of banding posts :(
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it's not some freakish obsession all you need is a scene with more than 12 stops DR, they are not hard to find, sometimes you can get around it with multi-exposures but sometimes not

rwbaron wrote:

I'd say it gives a few people something to do. Those obsessed with the idea of 4 stop shadow lifts in post.

Don't get me wrong as I'm not happy that early indications are the 5D3 still has a low ISO banding issue but only from the standpoint of "what has Canon been doing for the last 3 years" and not from a "oh no, this limits what I can do with the camera" concern.

Bob

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Gives everyone something to do.

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Horshack wrote:

Jakub Kubica wrote:

It's not only about shadow lifting.

Those nasty lines are indication of wrong column AD calibration which will show up in any heavy postprocessing, not only shadow lifting. El cheapo electronics or wrongly implemented CMOS readout.

CANON - shame on you again

yeah that is the 7D which also had what appeared to be vertical gain banding not just offset banding

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other than all the times when better technique is not possible
In reply to MichaelSpotts, Mar 6, 2012

and even when possible, who wouldn't want to save all the time anyway?

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