Hey Olympus...retro is so passe...anyone there got a clue? Time to move on.(nt)

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Here's something else you'll enjoy!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039040/
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Based on the hype and excitement over the OMD, I'm not sure you're right. Time will tell.

Personally, I think choosing a camera based on how it looks (or how it makes you look), makes about as much sense as choosing a hammer based on the color of the handle. Both are tools to accomplish a task, and I'm more interested in how it accomplishes the task than how it looks while doing so.
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the new Pentax I don't think you're really qualified to comment on style, or was it the designer label that got you all excited lol.
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In reply to Corkcampbell, Mar 4, 2012

Of course retro is passe!! That IS the whole idea of retro. It would not be retro if it wasn´t passe. I suppose this is what you meant with your post?

But tell that also to VW.... they are bringing a new Beetle again. What about Mini Cooper... And you should have told that to those who decide about Academy awards.... A retro movie got 4 Oscars.... pity that it wasn´t completely shot in Academy ratio which is 4:3 Or was it? I havent´seen it yet.

Or if you didn´t mean that I suppose your post got lost for 8 months and surfaced only now:) Becaus to me O-MD isn´t a retro camera. E-P1, E-P2 and E-P3 are. E-PL and E-PM aren´t and neither is O-MD unless you think that re-using old series name OM is enough to make it a "retro" camera.

I handled both E-M5 and Fuji X-Pro1 on Friday and E-M5 felt in my hands 100% modern camera full of very modern techology. X-Pro1 ... that is what I would call a retro. By the way both cameras felt absolutely great in hand and the X-Pro1 despite of being a retro camera (also more solid and bulky) feels even better.

Human hands and position of eyes on head haven´t changed that much since the 1970´s I suppose. If something worked ergonomywise then I guess it might work still for a couple of decades.

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But tell that also to VW.... they are bringing a new Beetle again. What about Mini Cooper... And you should have told that to those who decide about Academy awards.... A retro movie got 4 Oscars.... pity that it wasn´t completely shot in Academy ratio which is 4:3 Or was it? I havent´seen it yet.

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have to agree on this, Olympus are a forward looking company, the retro designs get a hell of a lot wet knickers from the gear heads.........but it's so boring
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illy wrote:

have to agree on this, Olympus are a forward looking company, the retro designs get a hell of a lot wet knickers from the gear heads.........but it's so boring

Only boring if one spends more time looking at the camera than taking pictures..

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I think you must be right - seems like there is no market enthusiasm for the Fuji X-Pro1 or the E-M5. Stupid Fuji and Olympus marketing departments!

Yeah, seriously, think you are not right on what the market wants right now. We can all say what we want about features and capabilities, but I think there is some extra love heaped on the cameras with retro styling.

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In reply to DrWu, Mar 4, 2012

My best experiences with SLR was Olympus OM 1, what is wrong bring back the lovely little machine in digital form. Some times old is new again.
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illy wrote:

have to agree on this, Olympus are a forward looking company, the retro designs get a hell of a lot wet knickers from the gear heads.........but it's so boring

Only boring if one spends more time looking at the camera than taking pictures..

i don't let taking pictures get in the way of looking at cameras
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In reply to Corkcampbell, Mar 4, 2012

We could all buy things based on how they look rather than how they work.

Frankly, the "retro" look of the E-M5 goes pretty well with modern designs. Look at the Apple Macbook Pro. Silver, black, sharp corners where appropriate, rounded corners where appropriate. I see a lot of design cues in common between the E-M5 and Apple products (just to take an example of the company which is pretty much always considered to be the vanguard of modern industrial design). We just think the E-M5 looks retro because, well, cameras used to look like that. Just because it doesn't look like a bubble doesn't mean it's not modern (for one, bubbles went out of vogue in 2003 when Appls stopped putting CRT screens in iMacs).

I'm sure that if cameras had never looked anything like the OM-1, we'd be fawning over (or hating) this design today for how modern it looks. Because it is modern. It's a modern interpretation on a classical design. Look at the arced corners of the viewfinder/hotshoe hump, there's no 1970s SLR that ever looked like that.

But ultimately, the aesthetic design of the camera is secondary to the function of the camera, as long as the design doesn't detract from the function. I might have bought a PEN a long time ago if they weren't hell-bent on only including usable control wheels on the highest end models and forcing you to shell out an extra $250 for the luxury of a viewfinder that you couldn't use at the same time as a flash. Pretty cameras, though, especially the E-PL2.
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In reply to Corkcampbell, Mar 4, 2012

Awww... But it's so tiny and cute! :o The only way Olympus can top it is by making the next model come with actual kittens and puppies taking the pictures for you.

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Well, I think retro for a computer would be beige with a CRT on it. Apple isn't much like that these days!

I figure Oly did the OM-D as a differentiator. They want it to be something different from Panasonic and something different from their Pen lines which look like classic point and shoots with a real big lens strapped on them.

The real story isn't the camera which I don't really think is that impressive. I think what it really makes apparent is that Olympus has a successful marketing operation where as Panasonic hasn't a clue how to market their cameras (and almost actively works to drive folks away from their great tech with horrible horrible customer service). Oly's "Pen Ready" campaign got me interested in m43. There's a lot of excitement in some folks for the OM-D and that's a good thing for Oly.

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Ask Apple about that. it works believe it or not.

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In reply to Corkcampbell, Mar 4, 2012

Then we'll see who has a clue, and who does not.

Personally, I never liked the blob of jello styling that seems to have become popular with dslr's. I find the EM5's crisp lines to be rather appealing.

And, yes, I'm getting one in silver... because it's pretty.

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I'll say here, here to that. The OM-1 was a terrific SLR and also the first one I owned. Very pleased to see the reincarnation! To me a look good, feel good combo.
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In reply to Corkcampbell, Mar 4, 2012

Sounds like Yogi's "It's deja vu all over again"....could it be retro if it wasn't passe?

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Awww... But it's so tiny and cute! :o The only way Olympus can top it is by making the next model come with actual kittens and puppies taking the pictures for you.

... or better yet, kittens and puppies taking pictures of other kittens and puppies while you watch, then posting them to DPR for you.

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Bob Meyer wrote:

Based on the hype and excitement over the OMD, I'm not sure you're right. Time will tell.

Personally, I think choosing a camera based on how it looks (or how it makes you look), makes about as much sense as choosing a hammer based on the color of the handle. Both are tools to accomplish a task, and I'm more interested in how it accomplishes the task than how it looks while doing so.

I agree in principle. However, if there is no or minimal sacrifice in ergonomics made to provide some style, then I'm all for adding some style. Whether or not sacrifices have been made in the E-M5 for style is something each person will have to decide for themselves.

If I were carrying my hammer in public, and given a choice between a hammer that is orange versus one that is black, I'll go with the black one every time. If they both do a good job hammering nails, I'd rather do it in a color I like.

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