D4 NEF comparison ISO 100 x 25600 w Topaz! Amazing!...

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Ray Soares
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D4 NEF comparison ISO 100 x 25600 w Topaz! Amazing!...
Mar 3, 2012

Open in NX2, neutral, no NR, no sharpening, save as tiff 16 bits.
Open in CS5 apply topaz denoise, raw-strong setting.

Apply a bit of highpass sharpening, small levels adjustment, resize at 1500 px using bicubic sharp, saved as jpeg max quality.

ISO 100 ( no topaz denoise of course):

ISO 25600;

I've never though this would be possible!
No need to compare to D3s: I only got a D7000, so I'm keeping my pre-order
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In reply to Ray Soares, Mar 3, 2012

these are great cameras coming from Nikon (Canon too)

thanks Ray

as always, best to "work" with what you have, and you always have solid advice in that regard

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The skin looks plastic
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The skin looks plastic...

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That's because the lady is a dummy. NT
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Wow
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I never thought it can be that good

Ray Soares wrote:

Open in NX2, neutral, no NR, no sharpening, save as tiff 16 bits.
Open in CS5 apply topaz denoise, raw-strong setting.

Apply a bit of highpass sharpening, small levels adjustment, resize at 1500 px using bicubic sharp, saved as jpeg max quality.

ISO 100 ( no topaz denoise of course):

ISO 25600;

I've never though this would be possible!
No need to compare to D3s: I only got a D7000, so I'm keeping my pre-order
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Its really impressing and IMO it is compared to max iso 2200 in my D7000.
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Re: The skin looks plastic
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great high iso IQ

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I think that's what Canon tried to do in-camera but were unable ;).

Thanks!

BTW, which version of CNX2 is opening the NEFs?
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NX2 version 2.3.1
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Much prefer to denoise in pp as you have done...
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Than for the camera to try and do it. BTW does the D7000 have a no-NR setting where the camera does not do any noise removal in camera?

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DeSono wrote:

Than for the camera to try and do it. BTW does the D7000 have a no-NR setting where the camera does not do any noise removal in camera?

Yep, it does, but you also can disable NR in NX2 if you shoot raw.
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Thank your for the test
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You'll see clearly loss of detail in the fabric if you look carefully. Of course there is enough detail that nobody would notice (that is nobody who is not aware of the PP). Therefore in this regard it is relevant.

But it's okay with the photo of a plastic dummy. It would be different for the portrait of a real person. We expect a little skin imperfection in "real-skin life". Maybe ) the result would not be that good.

Still an incredible performance. ISO 25600. Like Thom said when the D3 was announced a few years ago, we would hear of ISO values we didn't even know they could exist. Still applies today.
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Re: The skin looks plastic
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Robin Casady wrote:

The skin looks plastic...

Your comments tend to be very off the wall and argumentative! Do you intentionally try to make a fool of yourself?

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TOF guy wrote:

You'll see clearly loss of detail in the fabric if you look carefully. Of course there is enough detail that nobody would notice (that is nobody who is not aware of the PP). Therefore in this regard it is relevant.

But it's okay with the photo of a plastic dummy. It would be different for the portrait of a real person. We expect a little skin imperfection in "real-skin life". Maybe ) the result would not be that good.

Well, we've got to see real samples specially with dim light.

Still an incredible performance. ISO 25600. Like Thom said when the D3 was announced a few years ago, we would hear of ISO values we didn't even know they could exist. Still applies today.
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Re: Wow
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All files look good at web size..

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Frank Stein wrote:

Robin Casady wrote:

The skin looks plastic...

Your comments tend to be very off the wall and argumentative! Do you intentionally try to make a fool of yourself?

The guy cracks a simple, gentle joke. How does it warrant a reply like yours?

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That looks amazing at 25600. Does anyone know whether D4 or D800 has easyISO or something equivalent? Heard D700 and D3 do not. D7k has it and find it very useful on aperture priority mode. Thanks.

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D700 has auto ISO, I assume that the D3 does as well... and the D4/D800 will too...

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That looks amazing at 25600. Does anyone know whether D4 or D800 has easyISO or something equivalent? Heard D700 and D3 do not. D7k has it and find it very useful on aperture priority mode. Thanks.

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The scene here is perfectly lit.
I think this is the incredible quality you can expect with some PP.

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TOF guy wrote:

You'll see clearly loss of detail in the fabric if you look carefully. Of course there is enough detail that nobody would notice (that is nobody who is not aware of the PP). Therefore in this regard it is relevant.

But it's okay with the photo of a plastic dummy. It would be different for the portrait of a real person. We expect a little skin imperfection in "real-skin life". Maybe ) the result would not be that good.

Well, we've got to see real samples specially with dim light.

Still an incredible performance. ISO 25600. Like Thom said when the D3 was announced a few years ago, we would hear of ISO values we didn't even know they could exist. Still applies today.
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Agreed!

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Images not available??

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