G3 plus and minus

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pbn
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G3 plus and minus
Feb 2, 2012

I replaced my G1 with a G3 some months ago and just wanted to post some impressions after an evening photo course on the streets in Manchester.
Basically the picture quality and focus were great.

The only issues were handling that was made harder by partially frozen hands.

The accidental pressing of the iso button is easily sorted with a quick press of the shutter button.

The course meant using the wheel to constantly adjust the shutter speed and unfortunately the difference between spinning the wheel as opposed to PRESSING then spinning the wheel is quite small so I ended up adjusting the ev instead.

Finally I turned touch focus on for a while and spent too much time wondering why the focus square had vanished.

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In reply to pbn, Feb 2, 2012

Quite nice shots. It will get easier. I moved from the G1 and GF1 to the G3 and while it was generally familiar, using the Fn buttons to suit my own needs changed the button placement and I hadn't used a camera's touch screen before,. Using it day in and day out once I got it set up to suit me has made it just work for me as other cameras have. The strangest feeling is picking up my 5D after shooting with my G3 LOLOL.

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In reply to pbn, Feb 2, 2012

Nice. Are most of these from a tripod? seems like ISO is quite low .
I like the spinning wheel shot.

What's with the yellowish lighting on a lot of these? Is that how it was, or is that a camera color cast?

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In reply to pbn, Feb 2, 2012

Well these look fine images of my home town (not that I recognise much of it anymore, after a return visit last year), and I reckon you're getting great results from your G3.

Of course, any photographic control is more awkward in such cold weather - at least you have the touchscreen as well as normal buttons/wheels for many functions !

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As much as I like my G3, I think the control buttons are much too small. It is ridiculous that the DISP/Fn 1 button should sit flush (or even a bit recessed) with the back of the camera body. This is just poor design. I've assigned that button to PHOTO STYLE, but I'd hate to have to fumble around in the dark, feeling about to press the button with my finger nail in order to change shooting styles. The cramped 4-way cursor buttons, crowded together around the central MENU button and also barely raised, are not much better. The control buttons on my old FZ28 are much easier to access and handle. I don't understand why Panasonic felt the need to change what was a pretty good design. In fact, I almost returned my G3 right after I got it because of this issue, but the IQ is so good I decided to keep the camera and hope for the best. However, this is not a design that's conducive for shooting in the dark at night or in the cold with gloves on.

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In reply to Baba Ganoush, Feb 3, 2012

All comes down to personal usage habits.

I find I'm always pressing the Fn1 button by mistake so I set it to something useless eg. preview so that it doesn't affect my settings.

But I face the same problems as OP in pressing the EV option instead when using the wheel to change aperture.

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The other annoying thing about the G3, which may be true of other Panasonic cameras of recent vintage, is the confusing way the RECORD, SETUP, and CUSTOM menus are arranged. Can someone tell me what the nominal difference is between SETUP and CUSTOM? As far as I can tell, there is no rhyme or reason why some items end up in one menu rather than in another. Panasonic's assignments seem to have no logic to them. I know that some of them are holdovers from older cameras, and many people have come to expect to find things in a certain place, but the G3 has so many options it's hard to keep track of where each one is located. I've filled up my Quick Menu and have all but 2 or 3 of the software controls that I commonly use now conveniently at hand. Otherwise, I'd probably get lost searching the different menus for some of them. I don't have any problem with the menus on my Canon or Nikon DSLRs, both of which seem more logically organized.

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In reply to Steven 2, Feb 3, 2012

All the photos were taken on a tripod. Most had low iso and long shutter speed but a few were high iso to give a faster shutter.
The yellow cast is pretty much the colour I could see at the time.
The only PP I did was some cropping and rotation.

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In reply to pbn, Feb 3, 2012

It's a bit fiddly but small cameras must be. If I could only figure out how to set up a button to turn the OIS off...

A couple of night shots follow. One of them is what I like to think of as my bank (in Edinburgh). I'm not sure they see me as an owner though. The other is the public library in Glasgow.

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I meant to explain that I also moved from G1 to G3 and found it is a little more awkward. But I tend to forget it's in my bag, which I never did with the G1, and I take it everywhere so overall I get more shots which is what matters.

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Looks like the G3 is the UK night shot specialist camera...
In reply to pbn, Feb 3, 2012

...or is it just that it's always dark over there? (Okay, how did you know I'm an Aussie? :))

(Anyway, what happened to the England team against Pakistan in Dubai? eh? eh?)

All the photos shown here are terrific. Lovely color. Do you two former G1 users find the JPEG color is really much better in the G3? I loved the G1 with a passion -- I reckon it is one of he great game-changers in photography and a wonderfully designed camera -- but its JPEGs let it down badly and I couldn’t do too much with the RAW either (I'm crap at RAW stuff).

pbn -- those first two, you have a really, really strong horizontal movement with the blur. Great. But the pix themselves are too square for it. I reckon you would do better with those in 3:2 or even 16:9 format which would emphasize that wonderful horizontal blur. I would have shot in that format -- I find its often hard to get the saem view when you have to crop in PP (or printing as we called it in ye olde daze!).

Oh -- by the way -- I see you're still using the 14-45 on the G3. Good choice! It's a jewel!

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In reply to Hen3ry, Feb 3, 2012

.... Do you two former G1 users find the JPEG color is really much better in the G3? ....

I never use JPEGs - I'm a total Lightroom convert. Apart from the RAW adjustments, the range of plugins makes uploading to other sites (including DPR) so simple. So the answer is, I don't know.

You're right about the 14-45mm, but unfortunately mine was attached to the G1 when it was nicked. So it's the light but less good 14-42 for me. Maybe the 14-42X soon, as it's tiny.

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In reply to Hen3ry, Feb 3, 2012

I also use lightroom - the free one I got with the G3 - so I can't really comment on the jpg.

You are so right about the wrong 4x3 setting. My camera spends 99% of its life in 3x2 so I completely forgot that I had changed it to 4x3 a couple of days earlier. Moral is check ALL the settings.

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