Nikon D5 thread

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vFunct
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Nikon D5 thread
Jan 6, 2012

Congrats to Nikon. The D4 is the perfect photojournalist camera, although it's still short on video features.

Video predictions on Nikon D5, expected in 2016 (or, what the Nikon D4 should have had):

1. Raw video codec.
2. HD-SDI out
3. Genlock/Timecode in
4. 4k video resolution (non-Raw codecs)
5. 100+ FPS
6. Internal ND filter
7. Tilt/Swivel monitor
8. Phase-detect AF for video
9. Thunderbolt out
10. Bluetooth audio monitoring
11. Multichannel audio in
12. XLR audio in
13. High-bandwidth HDMI out

Disappointed that they didn't include these by default. None of these features are technically challenging nor expensive, and many of the ports can be added without increasing size through an external break-out box connected via PCI Express. Maybe they'll create a separate C300-type camera with these features explicitly for the cinematography/ENG market.

Some photo features that would be interesting for the next generation D5:

1. Swappable sensors
2. Built-in GPS
3. Built-in 802.11ac
4. Firmware developer API interface
5. Sensor-based phase-detect AF for live-view mode
6. Video snapshots
7. Fully customizable/modular picture controls
8. WebP/JPEG2000/JPEG XR
9. Sensor stabilizer
10. Sensor tilt-shift-rotate
11. Foveon sensor
12. Built-in Eye-Fi
13. Face tagging

The best part is that in 10 years, all the D5 features will be in the D3800 or some other entry camera.

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In reply to vFunct, Jan 6, 2012

Wow, D5 predictions already? Maybe I should start a D6 thread to stay ahead of the game.

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In reply to vFunct, Jan 6, 2012

vFunct wrote:

1. Raw video codec.

Agree

2. HD-SDI out

Why? No need. HDMI is fine

3. Genlock/Timecode in

No need, not meant to do this in a camera with rolling shutter effect. They know they can't replace a dedicated video camera

4. 4k video resolution (non-Raw codecs)

Not ready for that level of quality if you're not going to resolve the issues with rolling shutter effect

5. 100+ FPS

I'd settle for 15

6. Internal ND filter

Agree

7. Tilt/Swivel monitor

Web based interface is FAR superior

8. Phase-detect AF for video

Huh? You want pro video features but you're unwilling to focus manually like a pro?

9. Thunderbolt out

GigE and FW3 are sufficient. Although Thunderbolt could replace ALL the interfaces in one swoop

10. Bluetooth audio monitoring

That would be nice

11. Multichannel audio in

Use external deck. If you use this camera for video, likely you are doing high end production and would have the right tools for the job

12. XLR audio in

Maybe, if they did it via custom connection. XLR is a behemoth interface

13. High-bandwidth HDMI out

Yeah, but why? HDMI is fine

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In reply to vFunct, Jan 6, 2012

D5 thread! Hahaha, you guys have really a great humor.

vFunct wrote:

Congrats to Nikon. The D4 is the perfect photojournalist camera, although it's still short on video features.

Video predictions on Nikon D5, expected in 2016 (or, what the Nikon D4 should have had):

1. Raw video codec.
2. HD-SDI out
3. Genlock/Timecode in
4. 4k video resolution (non-Raw codecs)
5. 100+ FPS
6. Internal ND filter
7. Tilt/Swivel monitor
8. Phase-detect AF for video
9. Thunderbolt out
10. Bluetooth audio monitoring
11. Multichannel audio in
12. XLR audio in
13. High-bandwidth HDMI out

Disappointed that they didn't include these by default. None of these features are technically challenging nor expensive, and many of the ports can be added without increasing size through an external break-out box connected via PCI Express. Maybe they'll create a separate C300-type camera with these features explicitly for the cinematography/ENG market.

Some photo features that would be interesting for the next generation D5:

1. Swappable sensors
2. Built-in GPS
3. Built-in 802.11ac
4. Firmware developer API interface
5. Sensor-based phase-detect AF for live-view mode
6. Video snapshots
7. Fully customizable/modular picture controls
8. WebP/JPEG2000/JPEG XR
9. Sensor stabilizer
10. Sensor tilt-shift-rotate
11. Foveon sensor
12. Built-in Eye-Fi
13. Face tagging

The best part is that in 10 years, all the D5 features will be in the D3800 or some other entry camera.

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In reply to gonzalu, Jan 6, 2012

gonzalu wrote:

vFunct wrote:

1. Raw video codec.

Agree

2. HD-SDI out

Why? No need. HDMI is fine

3. Genlock/Timecode in

No need, not meant to do this in a camera with rolling shutter effect. They know they can't replace a dedicated video camera

4. 4k video resolution (non-Raw codecs)

Not ready for that level of quality if you're not going to resolve the issues with rolling shutter effect

5. 100+ FPS

I'd settle for 15

6. Internal ND filter

Agree

7. Tilt/Swivel monitor

Web based interface is FAR superior

8. Phase-detect AF for video

Huh? You want pro video features but you're unwilling to focus manually like a pro?

ENG videographers still use autofocus a lot.

9. Thunderbolt out

GigE and FW3 are sufficient. Although Thunderbolt could replace ALL the interfaces in one swoop

10. Bluetooth audio monitoring

That would be nice

11. Multichannel audio in

Use external deck. If you use this camera for video, likely you are doing high end production and would have the right tools for the job

Again, ENG.

12. XLR audio in

Maybe, if they did it via custom connection. XLR is a behemoth interface

13. High-bandwidth HDMI out

Yeah, but why? HDMI is fine

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In reply to vFunct, Jan 6, 2012

Toaster.

Mark my words, one day all high end cameras will have a toaster attachment

I really should alter "all" to "most", just to cover myself.
I don't want to appear too foolish in my predication
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In reply to gonzalu, Jan 6, 2012

gonzalu wrote:

vFunct wrote:

1. Raw video codec.

Agree

2. HD-SDI out

Why? No need. HDMI is fine

Yes HD-SDI for uncompressed video recording

And if it wants to replace a real video camera it need a good electronic viewfinder.

Plus new video lenses with electric focus, zoom and aparture pull like the digital drive of canon video lenses.
Yes, also XLR microphon ports with switchable phantom power.

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Re: No 14. (toaster)
In reply to Bright Angel, Jan 6, 2012

Frankly they not that far away already - reportedly 5D getting quite hot when shooting video for long time

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Toaster.

Mark my words, one day all high end cameras will have a toaster attachment

I really should alter "all" to "most", just to cover myself.
I don't want to appear too foolish in my predication
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The Nikon D666 will have a beer holder built in
In reply to Bright Angel, Jan 6, 2012

... but not a radiation detector since nobody can handle the constant din.

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You forgot the D4S
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You forgot the D4S, which will also have very incremental changes.

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bikinchris wrote:

You forgot the D4S, which will also have very incremental changes.

Which will be a 48Mp model.

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The D4xxx will be optimized for nudes
In reply to Lance B, Jan 7, 2012

perhaps a Bayer array specializing in flesh tones?

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In reply to James Van Artsdalen, Jan 7, 2012

The D5 will have the Flux Capacitor, You'll be able to make anyone look like a kid again.

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D4 = no gen lock = fail
In reply to vFunct, Jan 7, 2012

can't use this camera for a realtime multi-camera shoot where footage will be subsequently edited offline later..... well you can but not seamlessly....

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In reply to Lea5, Mar 5, 2013

Why don't you guys just go buy a video camera and be done with it??

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For me I want better low-light performance, and better coverage of cross-type AF points.

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perhaps a Bayer array specializing in flesh tones?

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no coffee maker? not for me ...
In reply to vFunct, Mar 5, 2013

and I want to be able to chill my beer as well ...  oh, and I want retractable wheels.

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It needs to be red too. Red is the fastest colour.

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