NEX-5N vs. NEX-7

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El Matadurr
El Matadurr Senior Member • Posts: 4,988
Re: NEX-5N vs. NEX-7

xxbluejay21 wrote:

@Matadurr

Like the guy above me and the guys in the other post u made said, that unfortunately won't work. the best thing is to convince Sony to add better AF in their next line of NEX cameras. Like on the PEN E series, AF on the 1/2 sucked and then people complained so Olympus focused the 3 on focus, making it the fastest contrast AF system ever. Idk how phase AF works, but Nikon added it to their 1 cameras so maybe Sony can do it too? But I'd be totally fine with a faster CDAF.

Also, I don't understand people that complain about the resolution. There's hardly any more noise than the 5N, especially if you downsample. And some people need that extra resolution for prints. It allows for flexibility.

This is a response to the other guy as well, and yeah, I kind of see your point. You never though, Sony managed to fit so much stuff into the 7, they might be able to figure out some other form of a phase AF adapter!

I agree whole-heartily about the noise "problem" with the 7. Even looking at 100% pictures, the difference is just so small. Even smaller when you either downsample the 7, or upsample the 5n.

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h00ligan Veteran Member • Posts: 3,079
So much iso misconception

The nex 7 is not a stop worse than the 5n, maybe half a stop, more like 1/3 of a stop.

That's, NOTHING.

It looks worse due to bigger files.

Print both and see what happens.

I don't get why people can say, oh I don't need the extra res because I don't print big, and then bang on about a very small difference in high ISO performance

I don't mean this at just you, I have just read over and over and over and over about how one simply cannot buy the nex7 due to lackluster iso...etc etc

Well, it's much better than many cameras people are using to print big.

You'd never know in a 1024 posting...

So what does it matter? Not much.

Sorry to vent, I think people are getting to caught up in measurebating..I am a recovering measurebator too.

Want to see how they do, print!

El Matadurr
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Re: So much iso misconception

h00ligan wrote:

The nex 7 is not a stop worse than the 5n, maybe half a stop, more like 1/3 of a stop.

That's, NOTHING.

It looks worse due to bigger files.

Print both and see what happens.

I don't get why people can say, oh I don't need the extra res because I don't print big, and then bang on about a very small difference in high ISO performance

I don't mean this at just you, I have just read over and over and over and over about how one simply cannot buy the nex7 due to lackluster iso...etc etc

Well, it's much better than many cameras people are using to print big.

You'd never know in a 1024 posting...

So what does it matter? Not much.

Sorry to vent, I think people are getting to caught up in measurebating..I am a recovering measurebator too.

Want to see how they do, print!

Well said, and good analogy to the measurebators. I'm highly impressed with this camera, and can't wait to pick it up. The trade-off with 50% more "picture" to work with far outweighs the ISO "under-performance". On down the road I'm really interested in getting the phase AF adaptor for sports photography in case the contrast detect doesn't cut it (though for what I'm using it for I really think it will).

Another thing I noticed about the NEX-7, why is it that when shooting in 10 fps mode, the live EVF feed is actually continuous? It's odd because on the "better" a65 and a77 when you are in speed priority or "high", live view only displays the pictures as they are taken, not a live view of the current motion. Odd...

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acc77 Regular Member • Posts: 231
Re: NEX-5N vs. NEX-7

It's glaring problem the NEX series in general is the sluggish AF performance. It's poor in low light ie. reason for the Christmas shot complaint threads.

from the nex 3-5-7 it's all the same.

Unless Sony improves in firmware, or develops new AF engine I won't be plunking down 1200 dollars on it's premium product. Like it yes, but for value I'll stick to the nex 5n for this generation.

nathanleebush wrote:

I wrote a post exploring the key differences and which one was right for me here:

http://arcrental.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/nex-7-or-nex-5n/

Of course it's completely subjective, but which would you go with?

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El Matadurr
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Re: NEX-5N vs. NEX-7

acc77 wrote:

It's glaring problem the NEX series in general is the sluggish AF performance. It's poor in low light ie. reason for the Christmas shot complaint threads.

from the nex 3-5-7 it's all the same.

Unless Sony improves in firmware, or develops new AF engine I won't be plunking down 1200 dollars on it's premium product. Like it yes, but for value I'll stick to the nex 5n for this generation.

nathanleebush wrote:

I wrote a post exploring the key differences and which one was right for me here:

http://arcrental.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/nex-7-or-nex-5n/

Of course it's completely subjective, but which would you go with?

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Or, you know, you could just utilize the focus peaking function in low-light. It's really easy (but time-consuming) to learn how to autofocus, regardless of camera. Really just a game of trial and error. What's nice is that you only have yourself to blame for an out-of-focus shot, rather than placing it on a "sluggish" AF.

When I think about it, I believe it is very possible for the AF to be improved via firmware somewhat , like running on better algorithms or something. We'll just have to wait and see though!

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hiplnsdrftr Contributing Member • Posts: 615
Re: NEX-5N vs. NEX-7

xxbluejay21 wrote:

New gadgets are cool, and I try to keep up, but come on, an iPhone 4s is 300 bucks.

An iPhone 4s costs from $750-850 to buy it outright.

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Canon has actually made the large sensor-compact camera I have griped about... and it's butt ugly. Oh well... can't win 'em all. Hello Fuji.

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Jazzclubber New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Touch screens are for non photographers.

....waiting for the fallout from this one. Why?

Richard Ettinger Senior Member • Posts: 1,309
NEX-7

Viewfinder is a must have.

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Ed B
Ed B Veteran Member • Posts: 7,597
Just an Opinion

I clicked on the OP's link twice, and twice got a message saying the link no longer existed, before I realized this thread is "OLD".

It would be nice if dpreview could put a time limit on how long a thread can be reopened.

Six months seems reasonable.

Naturally, if people want to go through the archives and read threads that are 1, 2, or even three years old there's nothing wrong with that but making additional comments and reopening the thread is ridiculous.

Like the subject line says, it's just my opinion.

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