i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800

Started Nov 25, 2011 | Discussions
rzakyn
Forum MemberPosts: 71Gear list
Like?
i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
Nov 25, 2011

i am a photographer. i am happy with D200. but other than work, i shoot high iso. and D200 is not famous for it's high iso performance. in studio, D200 is good.

if i can get D700 for 2.000$ in USA, i'll buy a new one. i also work at nikon. they say it's going to be a 12x3=36 MP, and about 4.000$ is true. i cant afford that much.

D200 is still not old fashioned, but in a few years, will D700 will be old? also if D800 comes, how much can a new D700 can cost? less than 2.000$ ?

 rzakyn's gear list:rzakyn's gear list
Fujifilm FinePix S5100 Zoom Nikon D200 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikon AF-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED +3 more
Nikon D200 Nikon D700 Nikon D800
If you believe there are incorrect tags, please send us this post using our feedback form.
MichaelIsGreat2
Regular MemberPosts: 159
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

The D800 is created to directly compete with the Canon 5D Mark II and the coming Mark III. Therefore, it will NOT be at $4000, it will be at a similar price than the Canon 5D Mark II that is around $3000 very maximum.

You come from a Nikon D200. You would regret it dearly if you would not get the Nikon D800 but you must plan for $3000. If your finances do not allow you to go to $3000, just get the D700 that is nothing short than very good.

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
noegd
Senior MemberPosts: 1,232Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to MichaelIsGreat2, Nov 25, 2011

I have sympathy for you - I have a D300 and am agonizing between getting a D700 now, waiting for an affordable D800 or possibly hoping for cheap used D3s once the D4 is announced.

If you are primarily after high-ISO, the D700 will definitely be better than the D200. A 36Mp D800 may not break new grounds in that area.

If you're tight on budget and unsure about the way to go, a D7000 will still be much better than D200 IQ wise, leverage your DX investment (if any) and cost about half what the D700 costs.
--
Equipment in profile...

 noegd's gear list:noegd's gear list
Leica V-Lux 30 Nikon D40 Nikon D2Hs Nikon D700 Leica M9 +21 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
rzakyn
Forum MemberPosts: 71Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to noegd, Nov 25, 2011

i will only get fullframe. so D7000 is not in my sight. because i dont want to invest on dx lenses. i have 18-135 dx, 80-200 f2.8 , Voigtlander 58mm 1.4.

 rzakyn's gear list:rzakyn's gear list
Fujifilm FinePix S5100 Zoom Nikon D200 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikon AF-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED +3 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
b2martin_a
Regular MemberPosts: 410
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

I had a D200 for several years before I purchased a D700 a year ago. I had delayed the purchase waiting for a D700 upgrade - what I wanted was a D700s with the D3s sensor because it has improved low light capability. I don't want the D3s because of the large camera body. I have not been disappointed with my purchase of the D700 and if the D800 is 36 megapixels I don't believe it will do what I need.

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
beshannon
Veteran MemberPosts: 4,203Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011
 beshannon's gear list:beshannon's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS7 Sigma DP2s Nikon Coolpix AW100 Nikon D800E Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35mm f/4G ED VR +5 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
dwight3
Senior MemberPosts: 1,801Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to beshannon, Nov 25, 2011

beshannon wrote:

rzakyn wrote:

i i also work at nikon.

Really?

Perhaps he means he works WITH Nikon?

 dwight3's gear list:dwight3's gear list
Nikon Coolpix S52c Nikon D200 Nikon D4 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF +9 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
dwight3
Senior MemberPosts: 1,801Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

As I (and many others) say with regularity:

If you NEED it now, get it now.

If you only WANT it now you can probably afford to wait.

I went from a D200 to a D3 (before the D700 came out) and the difference is astronomical. But I do very little studio work. I use high ISO a lot and the D3 excels there.

I kept my D200 and I use it for my "studio" work since the pop-up flash can be used as a commander, so I can use off-camera flash without having to have two separate flash units. In the studio I am not limited by light.

The D700 will continue to be a fine camera after the RUMORED D800 actually arrives.

 dwight3's gear list:dwight3's gear list
Nikon Coolpix S52c Nikon D200 Nikon D4 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF +9 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
bob clearlight
Contributing MemberPosts: 515
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

If you worked at Nikon, you would get fired for releasing any info (here) about products not yet announced by Nikon. So what is your real story?
The D800 is an unknown item. Specs, cost, availability date, etc.
When it is known, and only then, can anyone make an informed decision.

Unless of course you compare your D200 to a D700, IMHO huge difference-worth the investment for my needs.
What are your needs?
--
A Kodak Brownie can produce a great image in the right hands.

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Onetrack97
Senior MemberPosts: 1,928Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

I have a D200, D7000, & D3.

Gave the D200 to my son.

If you want High ISO, the D700/D3 is spectacular. The only thing better is the D3s.

This camera is going to be great for a long time.

That said, I will buy a D800 or D4x or whatever because I need more pixels and don't care about lower ISO. In fact, I'd love to have it's base ISO be 50.

-- hide signature --

Scott

 Onetrack97's gear list:Onetrack97's gear list
Nikon D3 Nikon D7000 Nikon D800 Nikon D7100
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Raul
Veteran MemberPosts: 7,487Gear list
Like?
You do not seem to be in a hurry, so
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

rzakyn wrote:

i am a photographer. i am happy with D200. but other than work, i shoot high

iso. and D200 is not famous for it's high iso performance. in studio, D200 is good.

if your D200 serves you well

if i can get D700 for 2.000$ in USA, i'll buy a new one. i also work at nikon. they > say it's going to be a 12x3=36 MP, and about 4.000$ is true. i cant afford that > much.

and you work at nikon

D200 is still not old fashioned, but in a few years, will D700 will be old? also if > D800 comes, how much can a new D700 can cost? less than 2.000$ ?

why not wait for the D999? By that time the selling price of the D700 will be US$150 and the D900 will cost around US$2452; the D999 will sell for US$ 3152 and considering you will have to pay US$300 for someone to accept your D200, the final cost, to you, of the D999 will be US$3452.

-- hide signature --

"The tragedy of old age is not that one is old, but that one is young."
O.Wilde

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
KenEis
Veteran MemberPosts: 3,929
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

I upgraded from a D300 to the D700 and in-studio performance increased greatly FF is so nice if you are old enough to have used "full frame" film. The D700 is not just better at hi isos. Even noise at base iso will muddy color fidelity so the D700's colors are much better. The PC connection on the D700 makes it better then all the older and less expensive Dxxs for manual strobe connection.

I purchest a factory referb two years ago for about $1900. So as a Nikon employee you should look into this cheaper option.

One other option is wait till the 800 comes out at which time the used 700s will begin to appear on the market. Just buy on with lower shutter count.
--
Ken Eis
http://keneis.zenfolio.com

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
rzakyn
Forum MemberPosts: 71Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to KenEis, Nov 25, 2011

KenEis wrote:

I upgraded from a D300 to the D700 and in-studio performance increased greatly FF is so nice if you are old enough to have used "full frame" film. The D700 is not just better at hi isos. Even noise at base iso will muddy color fidelity so the D700's colors are much better. The PC connection on the D700 makes it better then all the older and less expensive Dxxs for manual strobe connection.

I purchest a factory referb two years ago for about $1900. So as a Nikon employee you should look into this cheaper option.

One other option is wait till the 800 comes out at which time the used 700s will begin to appear on the market. Just buy on with lower shutter count.
--
Ken Eis
http://keneis.zenfolio.com

i work at nikon, and i didnt say anything more than what is said on forums.

i dont like used cameras. when D800 appears on the market, finding a new D700 would not be possible. Also my D200 is losing its price every day.

 rzakyn's gear list:rzakyn's gear list
Fujifilm FinePix S5100 Zoom Nikon D200 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikon AF-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED +3 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Nigel Danson
Regular MemberPosts: 144Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

I think the d700 is an awesome camera. I have had the same dilemma!

http://www.imageandlight.net/why-i-havent-upgraded-from-d200-to-d300s-or-d700-but-will-upgrade-to-d800

Nigel

-- hide signature --
 Nigel Danson's gear list:Nigel Danson's gear list
Nikon D200 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF Sigma 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM Tokina AT-X Pro 11-16mm f/2.8 DX
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
nathantw
Contributing MemberPosts: 935
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011

At this point, I'd wait for a new camera to come out. You know the announcement is inevitable, especially since the 2012 Olympics are taking place. The only problem is once it's announced will you be willing to pay what they're asking and are you ready to wait longer for the camera to become available to the public?

Since you already have and are using a D200 you probably can wait but what do I know, I'm not you.

-- hide signature --

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathantw/
Always have a camera with you and make sure you use it.

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
beshannon
Veteran MemberPosts: 4,203Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 25, 2011
 beshannon's gear list:beshannon's gear list
Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS7 Sigma DP2s Nikon Coolpix AW100 Nikon D800E Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35mm f/4G ED VR +5 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Dave Courtenay
Contributing MemberPosts: 695Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 26, 2011

rzakyn wrote:

i will only get fullframe. so D7000 is not in my sight. because i dont want to invest on dx lenses. i have 18-135 dx, 80-200 f2.8 , Voigtlander 58mm 1.4.

You can use FF lenses on the D7000 so you do not need to invest in DX lenses but as you work for Nikon you would know this right? You say that Nikon said the D800 will be 12mpx3 so is that 36mp or like the Sigma senor which has 3 layers of 12mp???
--
http://www.wildlifeinfocus.com
Facebook-David Courtenay Photography (www.wildlifeinfocus.com)

 Dave Courtenay's gear list:Dave Courtenay's gear list
Nikon D800 Nikon D800E Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35mm f/4G ED VR Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4G ED VR +9 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
capanikon
Senior MemberPosts: 1,726Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 26, 2011

I'd go with a D100.

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
rzakyn
Forum MemberPosts: 71Gear list
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to Dave Courtenay, Nov 26, 2011

Dave Courtenay wrote:

rzakyn wrote:

i will only get fullframe. so D7000 is not in my sight. because i dont want to invest on dx lenses. i have 18-135 dx, 80-200 f2.8 , Voigtlander 58mm 1.4.

You can use FF lenses on the D7000 so you do not need to invest in DX lenses but as you work for Nikon you would know this right? You say that Nikon said the D800 will be 12mpx3 so is that 36mp or like the Sigma senor which has

3 layers of 12mp???

-- hide signature --

http://www.wildlifeinfocus.com
Facebook-David Courtenay Photography (www.wildlifeinfocus.com)

i know about sensor, but i cant say it. D7000 isnt what i need. i need ff. also if i get a fisheye, i cant use it with D7000.

-- hide signature --
 rzakyn's gear list:rzakyn's gear list
Fujifilm FinePix S5100 Zoom Nikon D200 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikon AF-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED +3 more
Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Cytokine
Contributing MemberPosts: 626
Like?
Re: i have D200, buy a D700 or wait for D800
In reply to rzakyn, Nov 26, 2011

rzakyn wrote:

Dave Courtenay wrote:

rzakyn wrote:

i will only get fullframe. so D7000 is not in my sight. because i dont want to invest on dx lenses. i have 18-135 dx, 80-200 f2.8 , Voigtlander 58mm 1.4.

You can use FF lenses on the D7000 so you do not need to invest in DX lenses but as you work for Nikon you would know this right? You say that Nikon said the D800 will be 12mpx3 so is that 36mp or like the Sigma senor which has

3 layers of 12mp???

-- hide signature --

http://www.wildlifeinfocus.com
Facebook-David Courtenay Photography (www.wildlifeinfocus.com)

i know about sensor, but i cant say it.

There are currently only two well known layered systems: Foveon, which may have some problems with overlapping responses to RGB light. and Quantum film that can be applied to existing CMOS technology, and promises 2-4 times better light gathering ability, and solves the problems associated with CMOS rolling gate issues, but this technology is very new. If Nikon has taken this new technology, perhaps in conjunction with Sony, then we could be in for a big jump in DSLR performance. both in terms of colour accuracy, IQ, and high ISO performance.

It could also enable literally thousands of images to be taken per second and composited.

John

Reply   Reply with quote   Complain
Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum MMy threads