Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

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nikhgan
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Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?
Nov 16, 2011

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

What's the best way to prepare the image for printing at this large size?

Do I need to rescale the image to higher resolution (eg. 6000 x 4000 pixel) ? Or I just send the image to the lab and let them do everything for me?

thanks.

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I'd say it depends on how far away from the print a viewer stands.

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In reply to nikhgan, Nov 16, 2011

I've done 30x45 prints from weddings from the D700 that looked just fine. Portraits are very forgiving. I would find landscapes unacceptably lacking in detail at that size. You could get away with portraits at 40x60 from the D700....for landscapes, I'd look elsewhere.

Keep in mind that at 40x60, your lens, capture technique and post processing will be hugely important.

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In reply to nikhgan, Nov 16, 2011

glass, technique, post-processing, and several more things are needed to be able to give you a reply.

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nikhgan wrote:

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

Yes.

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nikhgan wrote:

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

Yes.

Interesting. Without knowing the subject matter, the situation of shooting, the printing output media, and the viewing distance....you've come up with a recommendation.

Gotta love the internet....it lets everyone be a webexpert.

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From what distance do you look this print?
In reply to nikhgan, Nov 16, 2011

Bigger the print more far you have to look at it. Thus 12 mp must be enough.
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Re: From what distance do you look this print?
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For landscape I would just take multiple shots and use Photoshop's auto merge function. Works like a charm.

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Faintandfuzzy wrote:

I've done 30x45 prints from weddings from the D700 that looked just fine. Portraits are very forgiving. I would find landscapes unacceptably lacking in detail at that size. You could get away with portraits at 40x60 from the D700....for landscapes, I'd look elsewhere.

Keep in mind that at 40x60, your lens, capture technique and post processing will be hugely important.

Agree. I print my D700 landscapes at 18x12. I'll go about half larger and that's my max. Seriously would you need to print larger anyway? If you did you have the jusitification to get another camera for that task...

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In reply to Faintandfuzzy, Nov 16, 2011

ok, it will be a portrait, print on canvas.

It will be viewed from the normal(best) viewing distance most of the time, just like a painting in the museum. But of course, sometimes the viewer will want to come close to examine the details.

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BuffaloSoldier wrote:

nikhgan wrote:

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

Yes.

Interesting. Without knowing the subject matter, the situation of shooting, the printing output media, and the viewing distance....you've come up with a recommendation.

Gotta love the internet....it lets everyone be a webexpert.

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JosephD05 wrote:

For landscape I would just take multiple shots and use Photoshop's auto merge function. Works like a charm.

I stitch alot, but seriously photoshop CS5 is rubbish for that task. It puts distortion all over and you loose half of the image to it. I use Ptgui...

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In reply to 260684, Nov 16, 2011

Yes, I also think 40x60 is too big for portrait.

I haven't printed it yet. I may go for smaller size, either

30x40 (4:3 ratio)
or
32x48 (3:2 ratio)

The photo I am printing will be in portrait orientation.

Which aspect ratio is best for printing portraits at this large size?

With 4:3 ratio, I need to crop my photo and will lose some data. It is not that convenient since the original composition was intended not for 4:3 ratio. With 3:2 ratio, it may be too long when hanging on the wall. I think most posters we see in stores are 4:3 ratio.

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Agree. I print my D700 landscapes at 18x12. I'll go about half larger and that's my max. Seriously would you need to print larger anyway? If you did you have the jusitification to get another camera for that task...

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If its a portrait why would someone come close to view details? Are they interested in viewing skin pore structure? Sounds like someone pixel peeping.
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Re: From what distance do you look this print?
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It can't really be answered as it depends on what you expect. We know it won't be as sharp as a medium format photo but if it's an excellent file, then I'd say yes, it will look plenty sharp for most viewers. I discovered some of my D3 hi ISO files were blown up that very size by the client, put up in a lobby, and was myself amazed at the quality. Cause I know I was using ISO 1600 and would myself probably shy away from such a huge size. That was a pleasant surprise.

I have had multiple billboards done from 12mpixels, and they looked just fine. The larger the print, the greater the comfortable viewing distance...A pro lab will extrapolate the file themselves in order to get best results if required by their set up...
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In reply to jean bernier, Nov 16, 2011

For what I consider to be my special images I have an A2 print made and framed, I much prefer to do the up sizing etc myself and just hand the lab the file at exactly the size I require rather than let them do it, I have found in the past that this approach and careful examination of the enlarged image on screen has allowed me to see things I had missed noticing previously and being pedantic ( a character flaw ! ) I know I would have to make the corrections and then get another print made.
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Re: Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?
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40x60 what? Centimeters? That is fine if you take great care through out the workflow and only use the very best lenses and techniques.

40x60 inches? Nope, not a chance.

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nikhgan wrote:

ok, it will be a portrait, print on canvas.

It will be viewed from the normal(best) viewing distance most of the time, just like a painting in the museum. But of course, sometimes the viewer will want to come close to examine the details.

Being the output is to canvas, that surface is very forgiving. I'd still say you need more then 12mp, but of that's all you've got, then add a gaussian noise layer or mono color grain to provide a tiny bit of texture. This will give the appearance of slightly more detail in the printing stage.

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BuffaloSoldier wrote:

nikhgan wrote:

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

Yes.

Interesting. Without knowing the subject matter, the situation of shooting, the printing output media, and the viewing distance....you've come up with a recommendation.

Gotta love the internet....it lets everyone be a webexpert.

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Faintandfuzzy wrote:

BuffaloSoldier wrote:

nikhgan wrote:

Is 12MP good enough to make 40x60 prints?

Yes.

Interesting. Without knowing the subject matter, the situation of shooting, the printing output media, and the viewing distance....you've come up with a recommendation.

Gotta love the internet....it lets everyone be a webexpert.

For this kind of question the appropriate answer is "Yes"
I made a lot of prints 40x60 with the Epson Stylus Pro 24', taken with D700

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If you dont have the money for a better camera....
In reply to echelon2004, Nov 16, 2011

If you dont have the money for a better camera....
you can buy perfect resize or S spline .. that can give you better upsizing
quality the bicubic from Photoshop...

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Re: If you dont have the money for a better camera....
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Rent a Sony a900

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