portraits | M8.2 | M9 | 35/1.4 | 50/1 | 85/1.8

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Aug 16, 2011

A few mixed from last weekend - some with my new loved, rare black Canon 85/1.8 LTM

I will upload more on my website and flickr, once, I can free up some time…

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In reply to JBThePusher, Aug 16, 2011

Yes...love your pictures. Where were they taken at? And I guess, being a 'white' face it is easier for you to take their pics, as I am an overseas Chinese the local natives would not be that indulgent with me.

Just my two RMB cents here.

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Philip Chan wrote:

Just my two RMB cents here.

Just my two 'fen' here.

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In reply to menos, Aug 16, 2011

Exceptional portraits. Well done!

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In reply to JBThePusher, Aug 17, 2011

JBThePusher wrote:

Very nice, love the BW

Thank you

Philip Chan wrote:

Yes...love your pictures. Where were they taken at? And I guess, being a 'white' face it is easier for you to take their pics, as I am an overseas Chinese the local natives would not be that indulgent with me.

Just my two RMB cents here.

Thank you Philip! These were shot in compounds around the Xintiandi area in Shanghai.

I hear the white skin/ long nose making it easier in China a lot from Chinese friends and foreigners alike.
I have to say, I do not believe in this entirely.

It would be similar, to state: "Yes, you used a Noctilux lens, so it was easier, to take that portrait!".

Of course are there some aspects, that help, getting in touch with people, when having a longer nose, but other aspects of being a foreigner also equal this out entirely.

Another point, what many people, who do comment in this direction (I had many discussions about this very topic), entirely fail, to reflect, when seeing such a close portrait of a total stranger in a total foreign environment, not speaking the native language is the actual work, one has to do, to get a close, comfortable and trustful situation, where taking something personal as such a portrait is possible.

It is not like I am being followed on the street with Chinese people asking me, to take their picture, as I have so nice white skin !!????

My two fen as well - it is never the the camera or the color of your skin that takes the pictures

AxsonJ wrote:

Just my two 'fen' here.

That would be correct.

nodrog wrote:

Exceptional portraits. Well done!

Thanks for your kind comment.
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In reply to nodrog, Aug 17, 2011

I am so often underwhelmed by the photos in this forum that it is a pleasure to see the caliber of these portraits. Very nice work.

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SD Focused wrote:

I am so often underwhelmed by the photos in this forum that it is a pleasure to see the caliber of these portraits. Very nice work.

Wow - this is a strong word!
Thank you certainly for the compliment.

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In reply to menos, Aug 17, 2011

Number 2 is my favorite. What a lovely smile!

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In reply to menos, Aug 17, 2011

Great series, Dirk, the last one is my favourite, the model is so interesting

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Number 2 is my favorite. What a lovely smile!

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Thank you Leo,

Yes, she had a wonderful smile - a very, very nice lady

I ripped her out of a group of her friends and asked her for a portrait - she was flattered.

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Great series, Dirk, the last one is my favourite, the model is so interesting

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Thank you Dinko - I try, to diversify more and use specifically different lenses for different peoples portraits, which is tricky in such quick situations (you only have one chance, that develops itself in less than a second - you get permission or you are denied.

Here, I saw the bus, just stopping and the alley way + his cart, providing perfect use for a wide angle, emphasizing leading lines, so I swapped cameras to the M9 with 35mm (it's extremely important, to have at least two cameras ready and preset, to have these choices - or shoot with a D3 + 24-70 zoom of course ;-)).
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In reply to menos, Aug 18, 2011

Simply your best post yet!!!!!!! LOVE 'EM!

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In reply to menos, Aug 18, 2011

Hello Dirk,

very interisting subject...Very well composed with this impressive combo .
Thanks for sharing with us...

Hugues.

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Per PN wrote:

Simply your best post yet!!!!!!! LOVE 'EM!

Per, thank you very much
It seems, I developed more of an interest into getting in touch with strangers.

This unfortunately diminishes my enjoyment of "more casual" photography, but I will see, where it leads…

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Hello Dirk,

very interisting subject...Very well composed with this impressive combo .
Thanks for sharing with us…

Thank you very much Hugues - I find more and more interesting lenses, that I add up, but somehow, only a few essentially stick in my bag, with the 35Lux, 50/1 and now the 85/1.9 being preferred.

I feel though, that the 35 and 50 mm are by far the most interesting focal lengths, to interact with personal photography, one including some information about the persons surroundings, the other being capable of extreme isolation and essentially concentrating of the subject's expression.

I am not very comfortable with the very modern, sharp look of the 35 Lux ASPH for these kind of shots and look forward, to use the pre ASPH 35 Lux v2, I have waiting for me at a friends home - it will be lighter and smaller too, helping, to slim down

Here is one topic, I experiment with - imaging people during their work - I really like the 35mm for this (it might even be the bridge, to rebuy a 28 Cron ASPH again, that I foolishly sold some weeks ago (my biggest regret in wrongly sold lenses):

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In reply to menos, Aug 19, 2011

the man in glasses and the boy on a bicycle are absolutely great.
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Irakly Shanidze wrote:

the man in glasses and the boy on a bicycle are absolutely great.
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Thank you Irakly - these were my two favorites from that day

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In reply to menos, Aug 23, 2011

So I went on a search for this lovely 85 mm f/1.8 LTM, and I can't seem to find any, other than at crazy high Leica-like prices over $1000 USD. Any chance you came across a good deal on this lens somewhere that I can look. Your images with it are amazing, particularly the first, which I suspect is an 85 mm FOV...
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ashwinrao1 wrote:

So I went on a search for this lovely 85 mm f/1.8 LTM, and I can't seem to find any, other than at crazy high Leica-like prices over $1000 USD. Any chance you came across a good deal on this lens somewhere that I can look. Your images with it are amazing, particularly the first, which I suspect is an 85 mm FOV...
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Ashwin, thanks very much for the nice compliment

The first shot in the series with the old gentleman with glasses in in fact a shot with M8.2 + Noctilux f1, rather closeup (about 1.2m).

In this series, the only shot made with the black Canon 85/1.8 is the second last one with the gentleman in white shirt.

He was amazing, just doing his exercises in a local park, when I asked him for a portrait. He must be older than 60, but in fact had the built of a 25 year old.

In this portrait, you see, how extremely detailed and sharp the Canon is.
Also is the signature bokeh of the Canon well visible in the backlit leaves.

Be careful, when planning to buy one!

Here are a few facts:

There are two versions of this rare black Canon 85/1.9.

Version 1 has been made in 1960/61, Version 2 (only difference being the front beauty ring inscription) being made a few years later until latest production year being 1976 (from memory).

More details can be found via google (look for the Kinderman Canon book and a German website by Frank Mechelhoff http://www.taunusreiter.de/

Frank's site has the most extensive info on the web about this lens.

The current going rate for a very nice copy (no beater, very small usage marks on barrel, mint glass, complete with hood and caps) is indeed the price, you stated.
There are basically no bargains, as these are rare.

I got extremely lucky, to stumble upon a sample from a fellow RF shooter over in the RFF classifieds.

Be warned: none of the fast Canon RF lenses, I bought so far have been perfectly adjusted for Today's M8 and M9, to work spot on from close up to infinity!

Be prepared, to have a specialist, you trust go through the lens and match it to your reference body!

I made this work myself, as I enjoy, learning about vintage gear from the inside out as well (currently overhauling a overdue for CLA 1932 Leitz Hektor 73 1.9 ;-)).

I set my 85/1.8 to perfectly focus from minimum focus (slightly under 1m) to normal distances. It will not reach infinity focus wide open until I also collimate the lens by changing it's actual focal length (a surgery, I keep for later convenience).

You most likely need therefore a specialist, who will adjust the lens perfectly for you, only then will it really show it's high quality (it is a lens in the same level of 75 Lux, Noctilux and alike regarding critical adjustments and focussing).

Good luck on your search! It is worth it!

I will post a new thread here with a few samples, showing the Canon's background rendering

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In reply to menos, Aug 23, 2011

what a outstanding portraits series..... GREAT !!!!

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janlu wrote:

what a outstanding portraits series..... GREAT !!!!

Thank you so much Gianluca
I just had my fun that day, really enjoying doing this.

Now that the temperatures are coming down again to humane levels, I will shoot more again (if work lets me).

That day was still extremely hot and humid, I remember.

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