MOST compact /shortest 28-200/270 lens?

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what is the most compact and shortest 28-200/ 28-250/ 28-270 or 18-200 lens made for nikon/nikon mount?

any Nikon branded/sigma tokina or tamron brands also may be mentioned..

I don;t know nowadays i just want the smallest lens with the most zoom-- for my DSLR..

and yes I have the nikon 18-200 VR I have in my arsenal.. but i find it too big..

I am just thinking of having a lens with the most zoom but least space that it occupies in my carry on bag when i travel..

so far I have the NIkon brand 35-80-- and for me it is small/short and compact and the lens barrel not too thick..

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this lens will be for my Nikon D90--

can anyone indulge me if you know any info?

oh, I have the tamron 28-200 (old/for film version/FX lens) and that is shorter than my Nikon.. I was just wondering if there is something else more compact..

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The Tamron 18-270mm PZD is the smallest, I believe.

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i think so too..
but scroll down below-- it is not much smaller/shorter than the nikon 18-200

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1034&thread=38953396&page=2

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The Tamron 18-270mm PZD is the smallest, I believe.

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If the lens doesn't have to be new or current and doesn't have to have VR or AF-S then you can't beat the Nikon 28-200mmG for performance and size and weight. It's a real gem that's been discontinued a couple of years now, so you have to buy it on the secondary market. I'll never sell mine, it's sharp, so small and compact, has a very short min focus distance and it's great right at 200mm. I realize many people now only want VR and AF-S, but that adds to weight and size. Maybe worth considering?

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Thanks Lora!!

since you have this lens-- would you mind taking a photo of it compared with any other lens you have?
maybe some other nikon lenses? or a can of soda or something

sometimes even reading the specs (i went to keh.com and ebay) it is hard to imagine how big it is for real sometimes, unless it is shot with another object that is of known scale

only if you can do my request! thanks
now you gave me an idea for my next lens quest

Ken Rockwell (i Know it is Ken Rockwell-- whatever people feel about him)..

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28200g.htm

he says that the zooming is reverse than most nikon lenses (ala Canon zoom lenses).. I guess something I might need to get used to, I used a cousin's Canon DSLR with a 18-200 lens-- yeah i found it weird to zoom the other way how my nikon brained worked..

" It's quite nice, except that the zoom ring turns in the opposite direction from most other Nikon zooms. Boy, is this stupid. " Ken Rockwell

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If the lens doesn't have to be new or current and doesn't have to have VR or AF-S then you can't beat the Nikon 28-200mmG for performance and size and weight. It's a real gem that's been discontinued a couple of years now, so you have to buy it on the secondary market. I'll never sell mine, it's sharp, so small and compact, has a very short min focus distance and it's great right at 200mm. I realize many people now only want VR and AF-S, but that adds to weight and size. Maybe worth considering?

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what is the most compact and shortest 28-200/ 28-250/ 28-270 or 18-200 lens made for nikon/nikon mount?

any Nikon branded/sigma tokina or tamron brands also may be mentioned..

I don;t know nowadays i just want the smallest lens with the most zoom-- for my DSLR..

and yes I have the nikon 18-200 VR I have in my arsenal.. but i find it too big..

I am just thinking of having a lens with the most zoom but least space that it occupies in my carry on bag when i travel..

so far I have the NIkon brand 35-80-- and for me it is small/short and compact and the lens barrel not too thick..

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this lens will be for my Nikon D90--

can anyone indulge me if you know any info?

oh, I have the tamron 28-200 (old/for film version/FX lens) and that is shorter than my Nikon.. I was just wondering if there is something else more compact..

Hi!

Just curious as to the other lenses that you use and some of your brief opinions about them. Specifically, do you have any "non-compact" lenses that you really like?

When I was buying my first SLR, I was also interested in its compactness. However, eventually other factors became more important to me so I'm probably not going to be much of a help to you.

Good Luck!

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I have different lenses for different purposes ..

I have the nIkon 70-300 VR for shooting sports when my son plays football.
I have a vivitar 100mm macro-- for macro
i have primes nikon AF 50mm D, AF 20mm, AFS 35mm (DX)..
I have the Nikon E series 50mm MF lens-- it is my "pancake" lens

i have the nikon 18-200 version 1 (no zoom creep lock) -- it is my most used lens on family parties..
I have the nikon 18-70 (DX) --... , nikon 35-80, nikon 24-50..

let us just say all in all i m happy with whatever i have..i am not a pixel peeper, i usually shoot in "A" at about 5.6 or so to get (usually ) the maximum sharpness if i want that--depends on subject etc...

with this thread i created.. I was just trying to see if i can find the most zoom range in the smallest package.. for my travel needs..

I actually just bought the nikon 24-50 recently-- just to see if i can make that as a travel lens-- at least that is a 36-75mm equivalent-- the usual range of my shooting needs on my travels... but then i figured why not look for something with a longer telephoto end? hence the thread maybe i want to to shoot the top of the eiffel tower or something-- just more flexibility

but anyway-- for whatever lenses you will get i really believe no matter what lens that has been made within the last 20 years i think will be good enough and if used properly it will give you images that will not be out of focus/HOLGA look.. i am sure they will be sharp enough...nd will give you clear pictures-- as long as you ar enot a pixel peeper/chromatic aberration seeker type of a photographer..

I mean unless one is getting paid for teh pictures...but for family vacation and party pictures-- any lens will do just fine..In MY HUMBLE OPINION

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Hi!

Just curious as to the other lenses that you use and some of your brief opinions about them. Specifically, do you have any "non-compact" lenses that you really like?

When I was buying my first SLR, I was also interested in its compactness. However, eventually other factors became more important to me so I'm probably not going to be much of a help to you.

Good Luck!

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John I was going to take some comparitive shots, but got real busy today. I remembered this review on Nikonians and there are some comparitive shots for size with a few lenses on a camera body. If this isn't helpful I'm happy to take some shots, let me know. There will never be a lens like this with this range at this size and weight. It doesn't compare in IQ to many "pro" lenses, and it does have a plastic lens mount (no issues so far), but it is very good.

http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/nikkor-28-200g/

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Thanks Lora!!

since you have this lens-- would you mind taking a photo of it compared with any other lens you have?
maybe some other nikon lenses? or a can of soda or something

sometimes even reading the specs (i went to keh.com and ebay) it is hard to imagine how big it is for real sometimes, unless it is shot with another object that is of known scale

only if you can do my request! thanks
now you gave me an idea for my next lens quest

Ken Rockwell (i Know it is Ken Rockwell-- whatever people feel about him)..

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28200g.htm

he says that the zooming is reverse than most nikon lenses (ala Canon zoom lenses).. I guess something I might need to get used to, I used a cousin's Canon DSLR with a 18-200 lens-- yeah i found it weird to zoom the other way how my nikon brained worked..

" It's quite nice, except that the zoom ring turns in the opposite direction from most other Nikon zooms. Boy, is this stupid. " Ken Rockwell

lac111 wrote:

If the lens doesn't have to be new or current and doesn't have to have VR or AF-S then you can't beat the Nikon 28-200mmG for performance and size and weight. It's a real gem that's been discontinued a couple of years now, so you have to buy it on the secondary market. I'll never sell mine, it's sharp, so small and compact, has a very short min focus distance and it's great right at 200mm. I realize many people now only want VR and AF-S, but that adds to weight and size. Maybe worth considering?

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Thanks Lora... The link was good.. Of ourse unless you find time although itvseems the 28-200 is about the same size as the nikon 24-50

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I have different lenses for different purposes ..

I have the nIkon 70-300 VR for shooting sports when my son plays football.
I have a vivitar 100mm macro-- for macro
i have primes nikon AF 50mm D, AF 20mm, AFS 35mm (DX)..
I have the Nikon E series 50mm MF lens-- it is my "pancake" lens

i have the nikon 18-200 version 1 (no zoom creep lock) -- it is my most used lens on family parties..
I have the nikon 18-70 (DX) --... , nikon 35-80, nikon 24-50..

let us just say all in all i m happy with whatever i have..i am not a pixel peeper, i usually shoot in "A" at about 5.6 or so to get (usually ) the maximum sharpness if i want that--depends on subject etc...

with this thread i created.. I was just trying to see if i can find the most zoom range in the smallest package.. for my travel needs..

I actually just bought the nikon 24-50 recently-- just to see if i can make that as a travel lens-- at least that is a 36-75mm equivalent-- the usual range of my shooting needs on my travels... but then i figured why not look for something with a longer telephoto end? hence the thread maybe i want to to shoot the top of the eiffel tower or something-- just more flexibility

but anyway-- for whatever lenses you will get i really believe no matter what lens that has been made within the last 20 years i think will be good enough and if used properly it will give you images that will not be out of focus/HOLGA look.. i am sure they will be sharp enough...nd will give you clear pictures-- as long as you ar enot a pixel peeper/chromatic aberration seeker type of a photographer..

I mean unless one is getting paid for teh pictures...but for family vacation and party pictures-- any lens will do just fine..In MY HUMBLE OPINION

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Hi!

Just curious as to the other lenses that you use and some of your brief opinions about them. Specifically, do you have any "non-compact" lenses that you really like?

When I was buying my first SLR, I was also interested in its compactness. However, eventually other factors became more important to me so I'm probably not going to be much of a help to you.

Good Luck!

Hi!

It's helpful seeing the equipment list and even more helpful hearing a bit about your shooting needs!

Here's a somewhat long winded thought.

27 years ago, a few months after I had bought my first SLR (a Minolta X-700), I was in the Washington D.C. area for the last year of my formal training.

I had a patient who I soon discovered, had been a White House photographer for years.

I was excited and of course started talking about photo equipment. I soon discovered that he had just about every Nikon piece of equipment that he wanted, which was alot!

Then he added, "You know,some of my favorite photos recently have been with a little 35mm Nikon point and shoot. It has good image quality, pretty accurate autofocus, and it's so easy to unobtrusively carry. I can quickly capture some moments that I might have not otherwise got with the bigger camera."

I was a little surprised, but never forgot the interaction. That's why I sometimes often carry a point and shoot and sometimes keep it in the outside pocket of my gear bag.

Anyway, the thought is, when needing a really compact camera, why not one of the many excellent point and shoots? They are very compact, have the great zoom range that you desire, and not being a pixel peeper, you may well be pleased with the results!

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Ok John. The only lens I own that you do is the 70-300VR so I included that. I thought you might know the size of the Nikon 85mm f1.8D and most 90-100mm macros are similar in size though not weight. I looked up some specs and it seems this 28-200mmG is very close in size and weight to the Nikon 18-70mm which you own. Anyway here it is hope this helps: from left to right Nikon 70-300VR, Tokina 100mm, Nikon 28-200mmG, Nikon 85mm f1.8D

Obviously, I don't know if you'll like the Nikon 28-200G, but it does fit your criteria and it's very good in all respects.

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Thanks Lora... The link was good.. Of ourse unless you find time although itvseems the 28-200 is about the same size as the nikon 24-50

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To answer the initial question: the most compact is (from my experience) the Tamron 18-250. However, that lens has no optical stabilization and I guess you'd miss that soon if you currently own the 18-200 VR.

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Anyway, the thought is, when needing a really compact camera, why not one of the many excellent point and shoots? They are very compact, have the great zoom range that you desire, and not being a pixel peeper, you may well be pleased with the results!

Either that or, for some better quality, one of the mirror less solutions available. Or wait for Nikon's upcoming mirror less solution.

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Thanks Lora! I really appreciate the effort! I have the nikon 85mm f/1.8 too which i have forgotten to mention in one of my replies here.. with years of acquiring lenses for specialized stuff and changing photo styles/needs ...

I did not realize the Tokina 100mm is that big! my vivitar 100mm macro is like a nikon 35-80 in size and of course the built quality is none compared to the tokina--but it is sharp(the vivitar is) !

I really like the nikon 28-200 G.. Also just in case i upgrade to FX body in the future, it is a "flexible" lens compared if i get a DX lens (regardless of brand) ..

Now it is time to save some money for it because it sells for a price like it was new!

i hope this thread also helps someone like me in similar "dilemma"

THANKS AGAIN!

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Ok John. The only lens I own that you do is the 70-300VR so I included that. I thought you might know the size of the Nikon 85mm f1.8D and most 90-100mm macros are similar in size though not weight. I looked up some specs and it seems this 28-200mmG is very close in size and weight to the Nikon 18-70mm which you own. Anyway here it is hope this helps: from left to right Nikon 70-300VR, Tokina 100mm, Nikon 28-200mmG, Nikon 85mm f1.8D

Obviously, I don't know if you'll like the Nikon 28-200G, but it does fit your criteria and it's very good in all respects.

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Thanks Lora... The link was good.. Of ourse unless you find time although itvseems the 28-200 is about the same size as the nikon 24-50

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To: Freedolin:

I went to photozone.de i checked out the tamron 18-250 too! hhmm that is another choice

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and yes I have thought about just bringing my Canon G12, which i have done before but sometimes the responsiveness of a DSLR is one thing that i really miss!

If I can just manually zoom on a G12--instead of a power zoom, of course the shutter lag too.. it is a great camera of course, but again sometimes in my travels i just miss the DSLR responsiveness of my D90...

now only if Nikon made a D5100 with AF motor in the body and as fast/responsive of say my D90 or higher level Nikon bodies.. that would be a perfect camera for me + just pair with a nikon 18-70 or the nikon 28-200 Lora is suggesting.. it is not as compact as the Canon g12...but again the responsiveness of a DSLR is what i am after..

which makes me want to add-- I have the Olympus E-PL2 with teh 14-42 kit lens-- and yes it is compact/small-- it is what i bring now for my travels..but the lack of EVF, and not as fast as my D90.. is sometimes what frustrates me in the handling/use area..

SO anyway-- i did not talk about Image Quality at all because I am not a pixel peeper and I am pretty much happy with the IQ of the cameras I have mentioned so no need to extoll the IQ's of any of these cameras or lenses I have focused more on the handling, responsiveness, user experience, portability/compactness areas

I guess i am just trying to find a balance for me..and it seems...my number one priority is the responsiveness of a camera (which I can find in a DSLR for now -- because I really can't afford the new OLympus E-P3 which they say has the fastest AF in Contrast detect focusing system ) ...

so me having settled for the camera that i have the D90--( no need to buy a new cam or to reaLLY GET into a new system- like the micro 4/3-- the E-PL2 and kit lens is all I want for now), I am now looking for a compact lens to go with the D90.. at first i was going to settle for the NIkon 35-80 for my travels(it is really small and compact) -- even if i have the other lenses mentioned... but i figured i might as well to look/research also for a long range zoom. hence this thread. which of course now we have the 28-200 nikon and the Tamron 18-250..as a result

thanks all for the input!!

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To answer the initial question: the most compact is (from my experience) the Tamron 18-250. However, that lens has no optical stabilization and I guess you'd miss that soon if you currently own the 18-200 VR.

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Anyway, the thought is, when needing a really compact camera, why not one of the many excellent point and shoots? They are very compact, have the great zoom range that you desire, and not being a pixel peeper, you may well be pleased with the results!

Either that or, for some better quality, one of the mirror less solutions available. Or wait for Nikon's upcoming mirror less solution.

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