D200 Rose and rain C&C welcome

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Cytokine
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D200 Rose and rain C&C welcome
Jul 28, 2011

D200 50mm 1.4D at f/2.8 1/640 ISO 100

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In reply to Cytokine, Jul 28, 2011

Hi Cytokine,

I like it very much and it's the kind of rose I prefer !

Good composition for me ... just one thing, perhaps it could have been a little bit sharper?
But Thanks, I enjoy!

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In reply to Suiteki, Jul 28, 2011

sharper,in fact I mean more focused on the rosebud?
Sure, 2.8 doesn't give a lot of DOF
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In reply to Suiteki, Jul 28, 2011

Suiteki wrote:

sharper,in fact I mean more focused on the rosebud?
Sure, 2.8 doesn't give a lot of DOF
Best!

Philippe

Thanks Philippe,

I agree about focussing on the rosebud, would have been better use of the narrow DOF.

Like you I love this type of rose, and this one still has twenty buds+

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In reply to Cytokine, Jul 28, 2011

I like your image very much..

However on my monitor it look a bit underexposed....
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In reply to Suiteki, Jul 29, 2011

The D200 does have a propensity for producing soft images.

Aside from that, good image though.

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Gale Bizet wrote:

I like your image very much..

However on my monitor it look a bit underexposed....
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Thanks Gale,

I'm using a WUXGA 17 inch lap top at the moment and brightness does vary a bit, but I do like darker backgrounds.

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In reply to paul85224, Jul 29, 2011

paul85224 wrote:

The D200 does have a propensity for producing soft images.

Aside from that, good image though.

Thanks Paul,

I think any softness is down to me not the D200, conditions here are always very windy being next to the sea in the UK.

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In reply to Cytokine, Aug 3, 2011

John

Very nice image,I to still like my D200, I have at times thought of selling it but I see photos taken with one and I say to myself thats why I still like it, and just like the colors, I use a 17 50 2.8 and 70 300vr on mine with trips to zoo I use a 80 200 2.8.
Thanks for sharing, will look for more in future.

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Nicely composed shot I thinks it needed to be a little brighter , like this.

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In reply to rpps, Aug 3, 2011

I do prefer rpps repost.

But also then the stems/branches in upper right corner need to be burned/darkened in some so as to not distract from the pink.
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rubicon wrote:

John

Very nice image,I to still like my D200, I have at times thought of selling it but I see photos taken with one and I say to myself thats why I still like it, and just like the colors, I use a 17 50 2.8 and 70 300vr on mine with trips to zoo I use a 80 200 2.8.
Thanks for sharing, will look for more in future.

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Thanks Rubicon,

Like you I love the colours from this camera and I very rarely use anything above base ISO, so the D200 is the one for me.

John

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rpps wrote:

Nicely composed shot I thinks it needed to be a little brighter , like this.

Thanks Rpps,

While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

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In reply to Cytokine, Aug 3, 2011

While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

John

Hi John I understand what your saying about your monitor screen, I have the same problem with my Dell 23" TN monitor. I have bought 2 monitors to replace it one was a new IPS Screen but the anti glare coating made my photos look pixelated. At least the old Dell now calibrated gives accurate colours now and photos look smooth with no grain. I try not to alter the original out of the camera too much maybe just use Highlight and Shadow tool and if the photo needs it Topaz Denoise. I was using unsharp tool until I saw the results on an IPS screen, the image looked terrible. Now I use Vivid setting on my D300s and knock down the saturation by -1, or Standard with +6 Sharpness and +1 Contrast. I would be interested in what picture control setting you use.
Here's my latest edit keeping in mind you want darker background.
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In reply to Cytokine, Aug 4, 2011

Firstly the original with colour gentle burn on the background to isolate the subject:

Another shot of the same rose bush:

Same shot with significant burn:

And one more without burn:

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rpps wrote:

While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

John

Here's my latest edit keeping in mind you want darker background.
Cheers Ross

Hi Ross,

On my monitor the background is nice and dark but the pink no longer looks natural.

The settings I use on the D200 were set up from moose petersons recommended settings, but not sure which of them are applicable to Raw as I never use Jpeg.

John

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cary smith wrote:

I do prefer rpps repost.

But also then the stems/branches in upper right corner need to be burned/darkened in some so as to not distract from the pink.
cary

Thanks Cary,

I have tried using the burn tool in Photoshop, but cant decide if I like my skill with it. I think with some masking and gentle application it could be useful on occasions.

John

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In reply to Cytokine, Aug 6, 2011

Hi John,

interesting exchange and beautiful roses. It makes you want to smell them..

As for the shot with/without burn it seems it has the focus slightly past the rose’s centre and would be looking better if it was there imo. Gently captured and treated. - I like the bright version adjustment.

Thanks for sharing,

Hynek

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HSway wrote:

Hi John,

interesting exchange and beautiful roses. It makes you want to smell them..

As for the shot with/without burn it seems it has the focus slightly past the rose’s centre and would be looking better if it was there imo. Gently captured and treated. - I like the bright version adjustment.

Thanks for sharing,

Hynek

Thanks Hynek,

The only problem with the 50mm 1.4D is that to get close enough is always on the limit of closest focal point. That and its narrow DOF, makes it not very forgiving.

John

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In reply to Cytokine, Aug 8, 2011

When I look at this, I'm not sure which to look at: the rose or the leaves. I'm sure your intended subject is the rose, but you've included all of those 2 leaves which in my opinion divides this image in half. I suggest overlaying a 4:5 frame which will cut off some of the leaves.

And don't wait for rain to take this kind of photo, supply your own water to a dry object.

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