e-pl2 fl-300r external flash help

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e-pl2 fl-300r external flash help
Jul 18, 2011

Hi I'm new to m43,

I have an e-pl2 and got the fl300r today. It works in RC mode. However, when put on the hotshoe the camera doesnt seem to recognize it. Is there somewhere hidden in the menus to activate ttl-auto/manual modes with an attached flash, or is something else going on?

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In reply to tomjones_85, Jul 18, 2011

tomjones_85 wrote:

Hi I'm new to m43,

I have an e-pl2 and got the fl300r today. It works in RC mode. However, when put on the hotshoe the camera doesnt seem to recognize it. Is there somewhere hidden in the menus to activate ttl-auto/manual modes with an attached flash, or is something else going on?

Did you turn the RC mode off on the camera?

You should not need to do anything to have the flash just work.

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In reply to Gregm61, Jul 18, 2011

Yeah RC mode is off. I'm starting to fear that it's not compatible with the e-pl2 right off the bat. Sometimes being an early adopter is a risky thing.

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When going to the firmware in the menu, there is only information for the body and lens. When i get home i will try to use olympus software to find firmware for it. I still can't find confirmation if it will work for e-pl2/e-pl1/e-p1/e-p2 online. But RC works so i'm confused.

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tomjones_85 wrote:

I'm starting to fear that it's not compatible with the e-pl2 right off the bat.

That could not possibly be correct. I have not seen an FL300R yet to know what the control layout is, but I would think as long as RC mode has been turned off on both the flash and camera, and the flash is set to TTL Auto, it should just plug in and work. No way they would not make this unit backwards compatible.

Look at the cameras' flash control box in the super control panel. Is it set with either the lightening bolt or the word "auto" in that box?

Sometimes being an early adopter is a risky thing.

:). Yes, indeed.

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Sometimes being an early adopter is a risky thing.

Well Tom we who have ordered the FL-300R would not consider calling you an early adopter...I am seriously thinking along the lines of "Guinea Pig" though...lol...

The more you figure out the less I have to learn! Thanks for this thread though as I have the E-PL2 as well and never even gave it any thought to not being compatible!

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in the super control panel, there is auto with the lightning bolt no matter if i have the fl300r in the hotshoe or not in aperture or shutter mode. in manual mode there is just the lightning bolt (fill in) . i select the box and there is no options for ttl-auto or manual. Haha i bet i'm missing something really simple. Anyone know the exact way how to get the other olympic flashes to work with auto-ttl? is it basic plug and play?

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The usual with a Fl-36R is to just attach flash, turn on flash, hit Mode switch until Auto TTL shows. Done. I have an E-P2, so no built-in flash. Otherwise should be the same.

Oh, and make sure flash is fully seated in the hotshoe!

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tomjones_85 wrote:

Anyone know the exact way how to get the other olympic flashes to work with auto-ttl? is it basic plug and play?

Yes, the FL50R just plugs in and goes whether used on my E5 DSLR or Pen (E-PL1 and E-PL2). The flash has a mode button you have to set depending on whether you are shooting in TTL, non-TTL or manual flash. You then use the SCP to toggle between forced flash (lightening bolt only), auto flash or the other options such as first or second curtain slow sync, variable manual power, etc, etc.

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With the FL-36r.......
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tomjones_85 wrote:

in the super control panel, there is auto with the lightning bolt no matter if i have the fl300r in the hotshoe or not in aperture or shutter mode. in manual mode there is just the lightning bolt (fill in) . i select the box and there is no options for ttl-auto or manual. Haha i bet i'm missing something really simple. Anyone know the exact way how to get the other olympic flashes to work with auto-ttl? is it basic plug and play?

You have push the mode button on the back of the flash to set it to "TTL auto" mode otherwise the flash mode set on the flash overides the camera menu.

I would have to think the the flash control system is the same. Maybe not?

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There is no switch/button on the fl-300r unit to set flash mode.. there is just a switch for RC(channel a or channel b) and then there is a off position. The manual says set it to "off" and then set the flash mode of the camera. I don't really see where to set the flash mode in the camera. Only in the super control panel or by pressing the flash button on the camera. Both show the same thing. auto, fill-in options that the onboard flash have. But the FL300r doesn't flash if i pick force flash or anything. Maybe my hotshoe connectors are screwed up. Anyone see anything wrong i'm doing on the menu side of things?

Thanks a bunch

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tomjones_85 wrote:

There is no switch/button on the fl-300r unit to set flash mode.. there is just a switch for RC(channel a or channel b) and then there is a off position. The manual says set it to "off" and then set the flash mode of the camera. I don't really see where to set the flash mode in the camera. Only in the super control panel or by pressing the flash button on the camera. Both show the same thing. auto, fill-in options that the onboard flash have. But the FL300r doesn't flash if i pick force flash or anything. Maybe my hotshoe connectors are screwed up. Anyone see anything wrong i'm doing on the menu side of things?

That all sounds kosher to me. With no flash mode on the flash unit itself, all you have are the options in the super control panel on the camera. Assuming the flash is seated all the way and you have RC mode turned off on the camera, the flash should be a plug and play affair.

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I starting to think something is a lemon. Either my e-pl2 hotshoe or the FL-300R. A user at mu-43.com ( http://www.mu-43.com/f45/b-h-has-fl-300r-stock-14153/ ) has it working on his e-p1. I thought that when you put on an external flash, the ISO becomes the minimum iso (iso=200) automatically like when you use the popup flash. That also doesn't happen when i use the fl-300r. grrrrr.. so annoying lol

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I hate to ask, but are you sure the batteries are good?
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I think the batteries are fine. Brand new and test flashes (it has a test flash button) and wireless RC both work.

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In reply to tomjones_85, Jul 18, 2011

tomjones_85 wrote:

Hi I'm new to m43,

I have an e-pl2 and got the fl300r today. It works in RC mode. However, when put on the hotshoe the camera doesnt seem to recognize it. Is there somewhere hidden in the menus to activate ttl-auto/manual modes with an attached flash, or is something else going on?

Mike

that RC flash control is turned off in the camera and on the flash?

Take the batterys out of the flash and put them back in. Maybe this will reset the flash?

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I sure hope you get yours working soon. Mine has shipped from B&H, so I am looking up to you to have all the answers for me when mine arrives.
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alright, time for some investigative work. I'm going to go to the nearest best buy and see if their e-pl2 responds to the flash unit. This is driving me nuts lol

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The official compatibility chart at http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/support/imsg/digicamera/compati/pen_flashes.cfm shows that all Pens works with the new flash but with E-PL1/2 the exception is "MANUAL flash mode cannot be used. "

Usually as a default TTL operation is normal. Just make sure the flash mode of the camera is TTL (= "AUTO"). It should work.

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